Re: Voynich research needs

[Zandbergen@xxxxxxxxxxx (Rene Zandbergen)]

Seth Morabito wrote:

> > [1] Either that we're all missing something very
> > important which is right in front of our noses,

I think so. What we're missing is that the MS was written
by someone in the 15th or 16th C and we have to understand
the person's mindset and environment. What could he have known
and what material could he have had available when writing
the VMs? _How_ could he have created a hoax? I'm not saying
that he could not have, but just wondering how...

> >[2] or that we lack some
> > vital piece of the puzzle without which we are lost,

We lack various useful pieces of the puzzle, but we are as
lost as a person in a maze who hasn't yet found the way out
but may still do so. Until the last corner, all hedges look
exactly the same, and there may be little indication of getting
closer to the exit until you suddenly hit upon it.

> >[3] or that there is
> > no answer to be had and the manuscript is a hoax.

See above.

Frogguy then wrote:

> If the manuscript is a hoax, I have a gut feeling
> that there should be some way of finding out, of
> proving it.

I am pretty sure that most of us have a different
understanding of what constitutes a hoax. If it dates from
a more recent time than it appears to, then I consider it
to be a hoax. But if it dates from 1470 (give or take a
couple of decades, being generous), when should we call it
a hoax? 

> But again, I wonder: is there a
> continuum from real, meaningful text to glossolalia?
> Perhaps there is. This question has never been
> seriously addressed...

I could imagine that there could be (which means nothing
- let's assume that there is indeed a continuum).
Is a document filled with glossolalia a hoax? 

Is there any other example of glossolalia accompanied
by a multitude of scientific drawings? Some of them
involve realistic plant drawings. Others include non-
existent plants though with details that can be seen
in nature. The astro/zodiac pages clearly show 
astronomical knowledge by the author too.

Cheers, Rene