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Re: low entropy text



Rene Zandbergen wrote:
> 
> Claus Anders wrote:
> 
> > today I tried to compute the entropy of a raeto romance example:
> > I got (with monkey):
> > h0: 4.32
> > h1: 3.93
> > h2: 2.69
> > Nearly as low, as VMS and even h1-h2 is in the same range.
> > Maybe the numbers are due of the low char count of my example.
> 
> Actually, h1 is quite normal for a 20-character alphabet (as implied
> by the h0). h2 is right in between Latin and Voynichese, and the
> relatively low value could indeed be due to the shortness of the text
> (the higher the order, the more the estimated entropy is reduced by
> this). You can see some of that happening in the graphs of the
> web article I mentioned yesterday.

	Twenty characters sounds low for a Romance language. 
Could it be due to a lossy spelling?

> Which brings me to the other thread: what we need is a word game
> which both reduces entropy and word length, still keeping the
> vocabulary size reasonable. That last feat may of course be
> assisted by introducing spelling variations.

	An EKT word game could do this.  (If you're not
familiar with that,see:

http://www2.micro-net.com/~ixohoxi/voy/ekt.txt

You could reduce word length by making the "word"
breaks syllable breaks.  EKT allows for variant
spellings/encipherments.

Dennis


> 
> Cheers, Rene