Re: D! II

["Dark MaP" <darkmap@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

> "Rafal T. Prinke" wrote:
> >
> > The range of possible languages (assuming it is not an
> > artificial language) covers all European and Near Eastern
> > languages, I believe, plus perhaps Asiatic ones (the Chinese
> > theory has been discussed at length).
>  I think we should generalize the Chinese theory to the syllable theory - 
> that Voynichese "words" are in fact syllables of the underlying language.

If the V-words ('voynichese words') are really the syllables... don't you 
think the entire (plain) text will be considerely short, so short that be 
ridicoulous if the theme is alchemy and related sciences??? In that case... 
:-) what if the V-words be (believe it) just... characters.. Anybody w/ or 
without a sick mind could develop a charset with (let's say) 256 chars, 
where every char be represented with different combinations of other chars 
from differents alphabets (why not!)?! you've got then 2 pages of fucking 
pretty chains, but the filtered text could say (i.e.) "Dammit, you dig me. 
Big job, bye fool.". Posibilities are simply 5 ^ infinite. or not?


> > The minimum range of highest probability should IMHO include:
> >
> > - Latin (also bad, corrupted, uneducated Latin)
> > - Italian (and related dialects)
>  Why Italian if not Spanish and Portuguese?  Italian is one of my 
> candidates, though.

I want to suppose that Italian is no far different from Spanish and 
Portuguese. We surely can exclude the 2 last, cause if we find any so-so 
understandable in italian then should be recommended to do analysis for 
Spanish and Portuguese.



> > - Hungarian (tough!)
>  Been there, don't think so.

Aint' be there lately :-)
And why not?

> > - Turkish (and those of other Turkic peoples)
> > - Arabic
>  Been there too.

I just ask myself how an arabic alchemy coded text gets into Europe. Not 
how. Best WHY?


> > - Caucasian (Georgian, Armenian - some vague similarity of VMS script?)
>  Been there also.  We have much more plausible precedents for the script, 
> many of which you display on your website.

> > I think that the following may safely be excluded (in the first 
> iteration, at least):
> >
> > - French, Spanish, Portugeese
>  French is my favorite.  French words are not clearly marked out in 
> speech, since there's little, if any, stress or pitch accent in a French 
> word.  Poetry in French does not count on stress (English) or length 
> (ancient Greek) but on the number of syllables per line.  The "alexandrine" 
> verse, the equivalent of the heroic couplet in English, is a rhyming 
> couplet with 11 syllables per line.  Finally, Louis XIV's "royal cipher", 
> which was never cracked in his lifetime, the record of which was lost, and 
> which was finally broken by the great late-19th-century crippie etienne 
> Bazeries, had multiple substitutions for, not words, but *syllables* (the 
> cipher elements were numbers with three digits, so probably only some 
> syllables had multiple choices).  All this makes medieval French (but not 
> Old French) words more likely to be broken up into syllables.

> > - Basque
>  Ah, Basque.  The following site is always worth a visit.
> <http://www.islandnet.com/~edonon/>

> > - Finnish, Latvian, Lithuanian
>  Not a lot heard of.  As I recall, Lithuanian is the closest language 
> existing to original Indo-European. Maybe the underlying language is PIE.  
> Could we get funding for that? ;-)


> > No doubt others have different lists <g>.

>  As you can plainly see!
> Dennis


Ok. We got nothing at last,
One idea lay blinking in my mind...
Brute Force Algorithm, Brute Force Algorithm, Brute Force Algorithm,....

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