VMs: Re: Numbercrunching "word" tuples

[Jan Hajic <hajic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Based on the latest posts, I'd like to draw the attention of 
you number crunchers to the web pages that discuss lot of 
such number crunching on the VMS, at 
http://www.cs.jhu.edu/~tugba/voynich.

Nothing new in there, but it might be useful to look at it 
to perhaps get some ideas.

Best,

-- Jan Hajic

On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Petr Kazil wrote:

> Very interesting for me, being a newbie. What tools and input transcription
> did you use? And how long is the input transcription? (If you give me a
> pointer I'll look up the rest myself.) Your list is very interesting. I
> can't but wonder about coincidences like the following:
> 
> 23 chedy qokaiin *
> 20 qokaiin chedy
> 
> 24 daiin daiin **
> 22 chol chol
> 15 qokeedy qokeedy
> 
> 19 shedy qokeedy ***
> 19 shedy qokedy
> 
> I don't have the tools yet to check it myself, but where would patterns like
> this appear frequently  in a natural language? I tried to find these
> patterns in a random English book
> but found few at first sight:
> 
> * I think that pairs like "if that" / "that if" might be the most frequent.
> ** At the moment I can only think of an example in Dutch that always
> confuses my spelling checker. It goes something like this: "Alle
> aandachtspunten die onderzocht zijn, zijn in orde bevonden." And then
> there's a comma in between the two "zijn".
> *** This one is easier: "of this", "of the" and "of a".
> 
> Not that this yields many insights, but it's an amusing exercise. And this
> kind of analysis could even be applied to chinese characters :-)
> 
> I am still inclined to write a "long pattern seeker" that would find long
> repeating patterns ignoring the spaces. Maybe longer patterns than 4 words
> would emerge?
> 
> Greetings, Petr
>