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VMs: RE: VMS numbering systems hypotheses...



Hi everyone,

I was also going to broach the fact that a vast majority of labels begin
with 'o' - and if 'o' was a number I would strongly suggest o==1.

Because I suspect that the *encoding* was right-to-left, to my eyes these instances of "-o" and "-9" fall at the *end* of labels.


In this context, two of my non-numeric predictions are that...

        "-9" codes for...
                "-us",  or
                "-um"   (as in Tironian shorthand):

        "-o" codes for...
                "-i"/"-e"       or
                " ",    or
                "(null)",       or for
                "-(as you'd expect)".

This last would mean (in Shannon entropy terms) "the remainder of this word is as you'd predict it to be", ie "use the top-ranking candidate word in this context", like a word-level "..."

Fo... ex..., th... is th... ki... of thi... I'm talk... abo...

My guess is also that "9-" codes for "cum-" or "con-" at the (right-to-left) start of words - but that's another story entirely. :-)

>If we are sure that the all vms words are numbers, shouldn't we forget
>about cracking it, until the code book is found? :-/

Not if it's a spelling code that uses various charts/columns/rows or the
like?
Something like - columnNR + rowNr from a basic default set for some words,
and chartNR+columnNr+rowNR for others?

Given that I believe the VMS' underlying language is probably a mix of Latin and Italian, I suspect that verbs/nouns in the code book would need some form of conjugating/declining - and this is what I suspect much of the rest of the text is (though possibly in a obfuscated way).


In addition: common words (like "cum", "et", etc) could well have short codes of their own - "89" [EVA "dy"] is a strong candidate, for example.

Cheers, .....Nick Pelling.....