VMs: The VMS "alphabet" and some other issues...

["Donald Goodell" <donald.goodell@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Robert-----------

It seems that the EVA "character" [a] may be a combination of EVA [e] +[i]
combined into a single Eva character-letter [a].

Do you or anyone on this thread have an opinion of this?

I am no fan of Newbold's eccentricities of trying to find micro-dot sized
combination of micro-letters in the VMS but it seems that certain characters
like the EVA [a] character might be made of 2 separate "letter character"
components.

If we could break down some of these into smaller components (which resmble
Tyronian abbreviations from northern Italy 1420-1490) we might be able to
add some vital "clews" to understanding the character sets of the VMS.

Also in your second table below, you have line item 4 listed as an EVA [c]
when I think you mean EVA [e] as you did with #4 in the 1st list. An EVA [e]
looks like the typwritten [e].

Also what Landini character correspondes with EVA [b] ? I know of an EVA [v]
but not an EVA [b]. Unless I am missing something here.

EVA uses small case typewritten letters throughout (e.g. otaiin, daiin,
okeody etc.)
Why have you capitalised some EVA characters in your list? Can you stick to
pure EVA small case letters in your charts, so I can transcribe them in my
table more accurately? (Unless you are indicating non EVA letters, and if
so, please explain)

Is there a free download of the Landini Voynich Alphabet character set? It
would make discussion a little more accurate in these cases...

Robert, have you drawn any conclusions at all from your own organising of
the socalled VMS "character alphabet" which might well employ letters and
numbers crytpically?

Also, is there an expert on Tyronian shorthand Latin/Greek/Italian
abbreviations that could help in this breakdown of the lettering system and
put some of his/her/their findings on this thread (if already done, please
re-post, I am new to this list last week).

Thanks

DG
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Teague" <rteague@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Voynich Manuscript List" <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 9:37 AM
Subject: VMs: Alphabet Notes


> If, as it seems, we now have the Voynichese numerals,
> and if, as it seems, they have letter values as well, I thought
> it might be instructive to see any pattern can be found
> that might give a clue to the arrangement of the alphabet.
>
> I have to say that I hadn't paid much attention to the
> alphabet itself, so hadn't realized what a simple and
> elegant system it is.
>
> As it turns out, an arrangement can be found. The
> numerals 0-6 fall right in line as the first letter of each
> row. It isn't how I would arrange the letters, if I was
> devising it, but it works.
>
>
> Here are the numbers again:
>
> #    EVA
> 0    f
> 1    o
> 2    r
> 3    y
> 4    e
> 5    l    '
> 6    k
> 7    s    a
> 8    d
> 9    ch
>
> To see this correctly, it will be necessary to copy and paste
> to Word, or other program where the EVA font can be used.
>
> f    CFH    p    CPH
>
> o    a    Q    B
>
> R    iR    iiR    iiiR
>
> y    d    j    G
>
> c    c'    CH    C'H
>
> L    iL    iiL    iiiL
>
> k    CKH    t    CTH
>
> N    iN    iiN    iiiN
>
> M    iM    iiM    iiiM
>
> Comments?
>
> Robert
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