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Re: VMs: Latin abbreviations



Hi Matthew,

At 18:30 10/07/2003 +0100, Matthew Platts wrote:
Does the idea of Latin abbreviations not raise questions about who the Voynich manuscript was intended for? If it's a write-only document with incomprehensible abbreviations, only understood by the author(s), then the neatness, the lack of crossings-out, the exotic drawings of nymphs and the like do not make much sense. Why would the author go to the trouble of ensuring that the VMS was a more-or-less pristine copy with precise diagrams if it was only a set of notes for his own benefit?

Excellent - we were discussing a type (4) approach [looking at the VMS from its "user interface", ie its functionality] only a few days ago, and here's a prime example of it! :-)


I've long thought the lack of crossings out may be a red herring: my opinion is that the cipherbet (with all its shorthand-like single-stroke characters) was designed to be written quickly on a wax tablet (by an encoder whose time was relatively expensive), but then copied slowly onto vellum (by a scribe whose time was relatively cheap). True, this is a kind of business school inference, but what the hey. :-)

Basically, if the VMS is a copy, then a scribe writing onto vellum would have time to check for errors before drying the page out (over a small fire): any errors noticed then can be quickly scraped off with a pen-knife (the same knife was used for sharpening quills, hence its name) and sorted out.

Also: we've all noticed low entropy (or rather, high redundancy) in the text - but this might also be acting as a kind of error correction code (compsci speak for a code where you can lose pieces but still retain the whole - CDs have this, so that even a scratched CD can still (usually) play cleanly). This might mean the encoder wasn't too worried about scribal errors, so perhaps didn't even bother to proofread it. :-)

FWIW, when my maths lecturer covered error correction codes at Uni, he talked about the signals sent back to Earth by Voyager 2: here's a quick page discussing the history of them:-
http://www.ams.org/new-in-math/cover/errors6.html


If, on the other hand, the VMS is intended for someone else, maybe for posterity, it might be ciphered so that only men of learning could understand it. This would require the cipher to be logical, and context-dependancy wouldn't help matters.

Many people have proposed the VMS-as-time-capsule hypothesis over the years - naturally, this is a favourite motif of novelists (and even computer game-makers in York!) appropriating the Voynich as a mechanism by which "Occult Knowledge Which Might Save (Or Destroy) The World" can be transported to the present day. Bless 'em. :-)


But I do agree: I too see the VMS as being written in a robust cipher, rather than in a flaky one.

Is it possible that the characters in the VMS represent syllables, perhaps, or whole words? This might be a method of encoding to save space. Vellum, after all, is, and always was, expensive.

It's possible: though the apparent cipherbet is quite small, and used in a quite structured manner, and all suggestions have to fit the reality of what we observe: so, it's basically a question of *how*.


I'm really not sure what the last word on the economics of it is: that is, if an encoder was writing blocks of text onto wax tablets, and a scribe was tracing/copying pictures and copying encoded text onto the vellum, I'm unsure how [in]expensive a part of the whole process the vellum would have been (in our 1450-1550 time frame). Certainly, paper was far more accessible by 1550, & that might have altered the relative value of vellum: but literacy was far greater... I don't know.

Alternatively the symbols in the VMS might not be plaintext at all. They could indicate symbols used in, for instance, predicate logic, or mathematics, or alchemical formulae. If I were to write OOsOsl&Of, for instance, I have no doubt you would all be puzzled; but I might say that there was no problem at all: it's a quadratic equation, s^2 + s = -f.

While I'm sure a modern logician would have no problem writing a document in predicate logic (for my sins, I did logic at University), I'm not quite so sure how it would square with the history of (representations of) symbolic logic - if the dates for the Voynich are (say) 1450-1550 (depending who you ask), you'd need to make sure that wasn't too unreasonable. Any proposed solution of the VMS that requires a constellation of Leonardo-like firsts to be in place would naturally be fairly unlikely (cf Roger Bacon's telescope etc). :-0


Alternatively, perhaps f116's "michiton oladabas multos te tær cerc portas" indicates the decryption method. To me it looks (but remember, I am a new amateur) like a scribbled note, maybe translating a portion of text back into Latin, "michi dabas multas portas", dropping some null characters, "ton ola te tær cerc". This might indicate that the decryption algorithm leaves some null characters in the translation.

Everyone transcribes this differently: come back to it in six months, and you'll almost certainly see something else again. :-)


Cheers, .....Nick Pelling.....


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