Re: VMs: Cylinders and the 9 rosettes

["Larry Roux" <lroux@xxxxxxx>]

But then I currently believe the VMS is from the late 1500s to 1615 so
it is not that unusual from my stand point.



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Larry Roux
Syracuse University
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>>> rockandhawk@xxxxxxx 08/02/03 12:56 PM >>>
As far as is known, the first anamorphoscopes {shiny cylinders or cones)
were used in Europe in the seventeenth century, although Western
anamorphic
art based on perspective, but without a mechanical device to view it,
began
with Leonardo da Vinci, and was used by Erhard Schoen and Hans Holbein
the
Younger, especially in his painting "The Ambassadors" (1533). If the
generally accepted dating of VMS is correct, and there is some sort of
anamorphic representation in it, this would be quite significant for art
history.

Best.

Leonard

on 08/02/03 9:46, Larry Roux at lroux@xxxxxxx wrote:

> One might want to try this with the astronomical and astrological
> sections too.  Interesting idea.
> 
> 
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> Larry Roux
> Syracuse University
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>>>> siem@xxxxxxxxxx 08/02/03 10:14 AM >>>
> Dear list,
> Has anyone experimented with shiny cylinders on  the 9 rosettes?
> The spiral text round the centre of no 3 (with the castle) caught my
> eye.The centre is empty.
> So, by lack of better equipment I placed the lipstick holder of my
wife
> in there and strange things occur, but this device is far from perfect
> ,,just like the prints so can't make much of it yet.
> Putting the cylinder in the centre one(no 5),something nice happens
with
> the "mills", no 2,4 and 8.
> They "hang" above the centre pourring whatever it is downwards, like
> above the nymph with the cross on 79v. and others.
> Maybe placing a much larger cylinder in no5,only leaving the outside
> ring gives a better impression, but I haven't found anything proper to
> use for that .
> Another example of cylinder usage could be f86v4.The one with the moon
> in the centre and the four men around as the "seasons".
> The left man is looking at the left,the right one to the right,the

> bottom one shows his front, the top one his back.
> Placing a shiny cylinder in the centre ,goin' around, one is lookig at
> the same person in the centre like walking around him,though the
> armpositions alter...
> 
> For now, have to find proper cylinders or someone who tells me to
check
> the archives better before wasting time on something already done
> before!
> 
> Cheers, Johannes.
> 
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