RE: VMs: [ha] [hb] not different languages

["Graham Waddingham" <Graham.Waddingham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Ok, so that suggestion draws a rather resounding blank. :( But hey, lets
not give up the ghost just yet. I still think that the difference
between the dialects may be just tense differences. Remember conjugating
those latin verbs? (Actually I don't remember at all - I gave it up as
soon as I could) The different endings may be all that's needed to
divide A and B. The trouble is, I can't at present see any way to prove
or continue with this idea. I shall leave it to someone else to carry on
this thought, though in all probability it's yet another red herring. 

Graham.

Opening the CopyFlo at random to Sagittarius - it looks to me like 8 out
of 
30 labels there end in <-dy>. So... it doesn't look to be the case,
sorry. :-( 

-----Original Message-----
From: Graham Waddingham 
Sent: 4 August 2003 14:20
To: 'vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: VMs: [ha] [hb] not different languages


Follow-up thought..... If I'm right and -dy is equivalent to -ed, then
we can make a prediction. I'd suggest that very few, and possibly no
labels would end with -dy. Is this the case? I can't find a word list
for the labels.

-----Original Message-----
From: Graham Waddingham 
Sent: 4 August 2003 11:13
To: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: VMs: [ha] [hb] not different languages


I don't know if anyone has ever suggested this as a possible explanation
for the 'dialects'... but perhaps the difference we see is just due to
the tense or person that the text is written in. Consider the following
sentence, written using different tenses and person

First Person, present tense: I walk to my car and get in. I then zoom
off. 
Third Person, present tense: He walks to his car and gets in. He then
zooms off. 
Third Person, past tense:    He walked to his car and got in. He then
zoomed off. 

This simple example show some of the features that are present in the
VMS. The word lengths are slightly longer in example 2 and 3. The
frequency of some the smaller words can vary dramatically eg I/He.

Could this be then a major clue? Final dy is very high in Language 'B',
almost non-existent in Language 'A'(source
http://www.voynich.nu/a_intro.html). Is the high-frequency -dy in B
equivalent to -ed that is added to verbs to make them past tense?  The
suffix -ed appears twice in example three, but not at all in examples
one 1 and 2.

Graham.


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