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Re: VMs: Drawing circles



Hi Jeff & all :-)

I'm, presently trying to finish and proof (rare for me as I don't read
backwards well), a "formal apology" to submit to this list here for
all of my ~babblings~ over the years.. "IF" I KNEW "the order" of
_the_ alphabet (whatever language) 2-3 years ago I wouldn't have Never
said "*HELLO WORLD - FOLD IT! :-)*", I would have submitted it before
now for ALL to share (henceforth & to soulution(s)).


If I had to ~guess~ on your request (below) - I'm afraid I can only
offer ES' folding sectioning technique/apparatus. 

maybe THAT is why I'm just 1 of 12? ~rats~ *DaRn that voynich author*


??? ??? ????????? (3 3 9) GUESS 8x8 

abc def hij
klm *** nop
qrs tuv wxy

or 

hij abc def
klm *** wxy 
tuv nop qrs 

(the 2nd ~flows_~ with folding
http://www.diac.com/~ekwall2/voynich/voynich2 technique.

the ***center(s)*** is mine (per ES) (&/or/is _YOURS_ to USE etc..)

But even THESE (above are not ES' - as I have NO Numbers as ES
pointed to.... The Original KEY is larger than an "Alphabet" in size.

3 or 4 times larger for positioning(s) available (Flip doubles etc.)

But these can fold "EACHLY" - (weird word - just invented that one?)
but EACH can be "other'd" placement on the Key(s) preceding it.

Overall ~I think~ ES meant see the FOLDS / SEE the technique etc.. 
Use _ that _(?)  technique to/for placement of your "alpahbet & #'s"

I ~sensed~ the Alpahbet and the Numbers ARE NOT MIXED UP (as it were)
but we have 2/4 corners ~mirrored~ and I know NOT if numbers come
before or after letters - either I need an Indian now? - or YOU ALL 
need second scribe (per nick) 1 of 12 leaves 11 and you all are doing
a good job! Keep up the good work!

ref ALPHA/NUMERIC (positions)

1) "ALL" Letters and ALL NUMBERS are in just 1/2 of the above MASTER
KEY - the other side is /mirrored/ - but I cannot decide/learn/know
their order. I seem to have failed (sorry), but I tried.


personal suggestion:

2) Encompass the WHOLE key.
3) SEe ALL * The dull mind is leaden, the illumined mind sees the
light of everything in the world (-R.W.Emerson?)

4) "modern is not so modern if you BACK up a step and ""look"" -=se=-
 
(prepare to BACK-UP *CUT* or UNDO as you Decode - undoing/backing up
/ or MIRRORING is the other half of this key!)

5) VMS is before Before BEFORE many things now.a.days (opens the
FUTURE/PAST of our history now)

6) IT's older than you think! 

7) As I have written nick recently - 1 ~weird thing~ of many I felt
10/6/2000 was an "alien" presence redirecting or control dna/rna in
years past .. in other words we were F*'d into present reality here. 

* F*'d = Farmed (what where you thinking?) :-)

many things are unanswered today, please everyone, keep up your good
work(s) !!!   THE TIME IS NOW !


Best to you & yours :-)
-=se=-
steve (Fold IT/ Flip IT) ekwall


PS Jeff, try to help/make (Nick and GC) get.a.long here (THEY) maybe
2&3 or 11 12...H*ck I don't know anymore... archive this for another
mind destroyed.  (ha.haa) JEFF - I _sense_ your path - keep it up!!

To all : good luck :-)



 Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 01:25:40 +0100
 From: Jeff <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 Reply-To: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx
 To: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: Re: VMs: Drawing circles
 
 steve ekwall ekwall2@xxxxxxxx
 To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
 Sent: 07 August 2003 07:00
 Subject: Re: VMs: Drawing circles
 
 
 > Hi you (modern day folkes) :-)
 >
 > pss the "VMS KEY is Visual" NOT Mathmatical!!! so you SEE some of IT &
 > that is good :-)
 >
 > -=se=-
 > steve (quest for FOLDED/FIRE) ekwall
 
 Steve can you try a little experiment for me? Can you write this alphabet in
 the order presented
 
 etoasinrhdluywcmpfgbkvqjxz
 
 out on you TTT arrangement. BTW I'm not an indian. :-)
 
 Tell me what results you get.
 
 Jeff
 
 
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