Re: VMs: Image Source, Accuracy of Transcriptions

[Dennis <tsalagi@xxxxxxxx>]

	I really do believe that *everyone*'s missing the
point.  (I'm not picking 
on you, John; I agree with what you say!)

John Grove wrote:
> 
> Yes, Jacques is right. It is rather of little importance what anyone uses to
> describe 'their' version of the character or glyph. However, if they want to
> communicate it to the group - there has to be some means to quickly
> communicate which character we're talking about.

	Agreed.    Perhaps we can say [Currier] {Frogguy}
/EVA/ {CurEVA} 
as illumin8 did.  That's unambiguous.

>         Some people tend to think there is such a thing as a 'u' while others
> don't. However, if we all call it 'ii' and treat it as either 'u' or 'ii' or
> part of 'iir' 'iin' 'iil' 'iij' or 'iih', 'iith', 'iiph' etc... we all know
> what character we're supposed to be looking at.

	Yes, if you specify the system used, as noted above. 
*However* -- 
statistics on an EVA transcription for /i/ in [M] /iin/
will be deceptive 
indeed if /iin/ is really one glyph as in [M].  The
repetition of i's in 
/iin/ will badly skew one's statistics in the former
case!  The character set 
and its size make an enormous difference!  (John says
the same thing.) 
But WAIT for my real point.
 
>         I am particular to i's and c's being related to one another with the same
> five ligature endings

	Quite so.  Someone, perhaps D'Imperio, noted that most
characters are made 
up of /i/ and /c/ strokes.  Now HERE'S my real point
<drumroll> ...

	You can *take* an EVA transcription and *turn* it into
whatever 
you like by using BITRANS and Gabriel's scripts, or
your own script!!!  
You SHOULD!  By all means decide on the 'real' glyph
set and analyze that! 
But we *don't* have to go to the trouble of redoing our
transcriptions!  
With BITRANS it's almost trivial to get whatever system
you want.  Whether 
you think [M] /iin/ is three glyphs, one glyph, or even
two glyphs, the 
EVA transcription still captures it.

	Now, if you think that the /n/ is a different glyph in
different 
cases, that's a different matter!  We can certainly
discuss that.  

	Does everyone understand?  Please?

Dennis
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