Re: VMs: Cicco Simonetta (for Jeff)...

["Jeff" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Nick Pelling incoming@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote

Dennis wrote:
>
> >         On EVA /daiin daiin daiin/  ...  In English one cannot
> >have "the the the".  This most common word is a
> >determiner, and there can only be one at a time.
> >However, "very very very" is acceptable slang to give
> >emphasis.  In early modern English and Romance
> >languages like Spanish or French double negatives
> >similarly give emphasis.  Just a thought.
>

Nick Pelling wrote
> It's not the "dain/daiin" repetitions that interest me here - rather, it's
> the *structural similarity* of "dain" to "daiin" to "daiiin" to "dair"
> (etc). These *perform* most like Roman numerals, wouldn't you say? :-)
>
> Cheers, .....Nick Pelling.....
>

Roman numerals have always popped into my head too but I also feel these
might be a red herring. The frequency, and static nature of these glyphs
tends to suggest either they represent one whol character or are a
replacement for a syllable. Which syllable they replace must be signified by
some preceding glyph.

On another note: I have said before that a friend of mine used to play a
word game at college where every vowel was preceded be the word arp. So that
'the cat sat on the mat' would become 'tharpe carpat sarpat arpon tharpe
marpat'. Here we could read arp = daiin. If it was not only arp that was
inserted but different letter groupings for each vowel then recurring word
patterns would be easy to replicate. It is thought that vowel statistics
were one method used to break codes so masking those vowels would be in the
interests of the code maker. To take it a step further. What if instead of
preceding the vowel the letters replaced it. If we take 'the cat sat on the
mat' we now get 'tharp carpt sarpt arpn tharp marpt'. Now this is obviously
out for the VMS as it is too repetative. If we use the method of replacing
different vowels with unique groupings then the daiin daiin occurances could
make much more sense, as these may be stand in patterns for a single vowel.
In this case a vowel pair as in the word 'indeed' where we have two e's.
Maybe only the iin or iir etc are significant. If these are combinations of
roman numerals then they would automatically indicate themselves as vowel
placeholders.

Just a few thoughts.

Jeff


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