Re: VMs: The big shock

["Jeff" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Nick Pelling <incoming@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote

> Hi Jeff,
>
> At 12:52 06/12/2003 +0000, Jeff wrote:
> >The trouble is I know Glen has the answer but he doesn't know it yet.
Also
> >Strong had the answer.
>
> Remember that Strong built his polyalphabetic hypothesis from the stats of
> only a few (was it really only two?) VMs pages (focusing most on f78r,
> IIRC). According to GC, Strong's magic number sequence
> (1.3.5.7.9.7.5.3.1.4.7.4) arose from various cribs suggested by previous
> researchers, but that Strong seems to have interpreted his own system
> somewhat freely when transcribing. Here's one of GC's pages containing
> Strong- and Askham-related material:-
>          http://www.voynich.info/vgbt/Strong_files/
>
> I also (probably like several others here) have scans of Strong's 1945
> worksheets on f78r (bet-01.gif ... bet-13.gif, etc), but can't seem to
find
> these on the Internet to give a link to. Does anyone know if these are
> mirrored anywhere?
>
> My personal opinion is that the link between "q" and "o" in "qo" is far
too
> structured to match Strong's idea of a polyalphabetic cipher. In his
> decrypts, "qo" seems to come out differently each time... which doesn't
> work for me. When I look at the VMs, I see a *structured ciphertext* - but
> passing plaintext through anybody else's polyalphabetic cipher would give
> an *unstructured ciphertext*.
>
> GC thinks that all this points towards the VMs' being a subtle & tricky
> 16th century polyalpha of a simple plaintext - I think that this instead
> points to the VMs' being a misleading (but simple) 16th century cipher
> system of a complex plaintext. YMMV! :-)
>
> Cheers, .....Nick Pelling.....
>

Yes but both GC and Strong made only one part of the link. What I have
discovered works as I already have words building up from my method. However
that is all I will say for now. When I have finalised the test and proved
the method on a set sample I will be posting the results.

Please bear in mind I did say that Glen had the answer but didn't realise
it. I say this for a VERY GOOD reason.

Jeff


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