Hello Ted and Gypsy,
Welcome to the VMS discussion group. Two additional publications that you
might wish obtain or review might be a copy of "The Most Mysterious Manuscript,
The Voynich 'Roger Bacon' Cipher Manuscript", edited by Robert S. Brumbaugh
(Southern Illinois University Press, 1978, ISBN 0-8093-0808-8) and the B/W
copyflo of the VMS from Beinecke. You might want to borrow the Brumbaugh book
through interlibrary loan (used purchase amount runs about $125). The copyflo
costs around $40 containing all pages of the manuscript at Beinecke. The quality
of the copyflo leaves a lot to be desired when compared to the
original (not yet seen by me). You may find that the scans available over the
Internet are adequate to your purposes. If you are one of the lucky ones
who gets a chance to view the original, then by all means do so;
however, I expect that you will find that there are strict conditions under
which you will be allowed to view the VMS (white gloves, no flash, no
objects coming in contact with the manuscript, no pictures, scans, etc.).
You will no doubt be allowed to take all the notes you wish. There is also an
extensive set of accompanying documents provided by the Voyniches and perhaps
others (list of contents available online). Those who have already seen the VMS
and these documents at Beinecke may wish to comment on their experiences. Ethel
Voynich investigated the plants in the VMS and her notes are included for
reference (something that I would very much like to see).
Regards,
Mr. Dana Scott
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 9:45
PM
Subject: Re: VMs: Re: Introduction
Outstanding! I would love to get my hands on some really
good colour
digital copies of the VMs. What are some of the issues
preventing this?
Frankly, I am only six hours from Yale and would be happy
to drive down
there with a laptop and a scanner (both of which I
have). I assume it is
not that simple, or it would have happened
already. But, I am willing and
ready! :->
Ted
Young
on 1/4/04 2:14 AM, Robert Teague at rteague@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:
> Ted Young wrote:
>
>> Hail the
list!
>
> Welcome, Ted!
>
>> As I am both new to
this list and to the study of the VMs, I would like to
>> introduce
myself. My name is Ted Young. I live in (very) upstate NY.
I
>> have been in the Computer Science field for over 8 years
now. I have a
>> strong background in various computer
languages, technologies and
> platforms.
>> Also, I have
studied linguistics off and on since fourth grade, when I
>> learned
my first language (after English of course); Ancient Egyptian.
>
> I'm Robert Teague, living in Atlanta, GA. I've been a member for
somewhat
> less than a year. My interests are in astronomy and
astrophysics, so I work
> mostly with the Astro and Cosmo
sections.
>
>> Unfortunately, the first time I crossed paths
with the VMs was only last
>> week, when I stumbled across an article
about Gordon Rugg's work with a
>> Cardan Grille. I did a
little research into the VMs and immediately
> became
>>
enraptured by its mystery and charm. Over the last ten days, I have
been
>> scouring the internet reading every article I can find on the
subject.
> When
>> I found this E-List, I decided to give it a
try. I was very happy to find
>> it still, seemingly,
active.
>
> Yes, this list is active. Dry spells happen, though
usually not for more
> than
> a day or two. There is also a list
on Yahoo Groups that's not affiliated
> with
> this one. It
doesn't seem to be active, though.
>
>> I can honestly say
that I will not be the one that figures out the secret
> to
>>
decoding the VMs, but I would love to contribute what I can and will
>
really
>> enjoy the ride.
>
> You never know.
>
>> I have spent a lot of time working from Stolfi's website[1], and
the many
>> sites linked from his page. I have also been to the
The European Voynich
>> Manuscript Transcription Project homepage
where I got a copy of the Eva
> font
>> and the latest
Interlinear file (though it seems that Stolfi's version has
>
a
>> lot more in it, please correct me if I am wrong). Are
their any other
>> resources I should be reading to get myself caught
up with the latest
>> advances in this field?
>
> You
might want to get and read the mail traffic from this list; the
archives
> are available from the beginning, back in 1991. It's rather
intimidating,
> though fascinating. Member Nick Pelling is working
toward getting the
> archives made into a searchable database.
>
> Current discussions include Jeff's decoding scheme, the plan to get
a
> digital copy of the VMs made, several historical figures, my
recent
> discovery of (apparently) the date 1708 written on f1r and its
possible
> connection to the alphabet table there.
>
> As
far as I can determine, there are two books still in print:
D'Imperio's
> monograph and Levitov's book. I have the first, and have
ordered the
> second through Border's Books.
>
> Gypsy
wrote:
>
>> ....hello, I am new to the list so please forgive
me if I seem ignorant on
> alot of the aspects of the VM.
>
> Welcome to the club! : )
>
>> I am wondering
..........is it a fact that the manuscript is in code or
> could it be
an unknown language?
>> Perhaps a dead one? Or alien
one?
>
> Nobody knows (yet), although Jeff's attempt using
Italian seems to hold
> promise.
>
>> Also all the
pictures of the plants.........have any been identified?
> Thanks in
advance. ~Gypsy
>
> Some, but I couldn't tell you
which.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
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