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Re: VMs: Re: Introduction

Hello Ted and Gypsy,
Welcome to the VMS discussion group. Two additional publications that you might wish obtain or review might be a copy of "The Most Mysterious Manuscript, The Voynich 'Roger Bacon' Cipher Manuscript", edited by Robert S. Brumbaugh (Southern Illinois University Press, 1978, ISBN 0-8093-0808-8) and the B/W copyflo of the VMS from Beinecke. You might want to borrow the Brumbaugh book through interlibrary loan (used purchase amount runs about $125). The copyflo costs around $40 containing all pages of the manuscript at Beinecke. The quality of the copyflo leaves a lot to be desired when compared to the original (not yet seen by me). You may find that the scans available over the Internet are adequate to your purposes. If you are one of the lucky ones who gets a chance to view the original, then by all means do so; however, I expect that you will find that there are strict conditions under which you will be allowed to view the VMS (white gloves, no flash, no objects coming in contact with the manuscript, no pictures, scans, etc.). You will no doubt be allowed to take all the notes you wish. There is also an extensive set of accompanying documents provided by the Voyniches and perhaps others (list of contents available online). Those who have already seen the VMS and these documents at Beinecke may wish to comment on their experiences. Ethel Voynich investigated the plants in the VMS and her notes are included for reference (something that I would very much like to see).
Mr. Dana Scott   
----- Original Message -----
From: Ted Young
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: VMs: Re: Introduction

Outstanding!  I would love to get my hands on some really good colour
digital copies of the VMs.  What are some of the issues preventing this?
Frankly, I am only six hours from Yale and would be happy to drive down
there with a laptop and a scanner (both of which I have).  I assume it is
not that simple, or it would have happened already.  But, I am willing and
ready!  :->

Ted Young

on 1/4/04 2:14 AM, Robert Teague at rteague@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Ted Young wrote:
>> Hail the list!
> Welcome, Ted!
>> As I am both new to this list and to the study of the VMs, I would like to
>> introduce myself.  My name is Ted Young.  I live in (very) upstate NY.  I
>> have been in the Computer Science field for over 8 years now.  I have a
>> strong background in various computer languages, technologies and
> platforms.
>> Also, I have studied linguistics off and on since fourth grade, when I
>> learned my first language (after English of course); Ancient Egyptian.
> I'm Robert Teague, living in Atlanta, GA. I've been a member for somewhat
> less than a year. My interests are in astronomy and astrophysics, so I work
> mostly with the Astro and Cosmo sections.
>> Unfortunately, the first time I crossed paths with the VMs was only last
>> week, when I stumbled across an article about Gordon Rugg's work with a
>> Cardan Grille.  I did a little research into the VMs and immediately
> became
>> enraptured by its mystery and charm.  Over the last ten days, I have been
>> scouring the internet reading every article I can find on the subject.
> When
>> I found this E-List, I decided to give it a try.  I was very happy to find
>> it still, seemingly, active.
> Yes, this list is active. Dry spells happen, though usually not for more
> than
> a day or two. There is also a list on Yahoo Groups that's not affiliated
> with
> this one. It doesn't seem to be active, though.
>> I can honestly say that I will not be the one that figures out the secret
> to
>> decoding the VMs, but I would love to contribute what I can and will
> really
>> enjoy the ride.
> You never know.
>> I have spent a lot of time working from Stolfi's website[1], and the many
>> sites linked from his page.  I have also been to the The European Voynich
>> Manuscript Transcription Project homepage where I got a copy of the Eva
> font
>> and the latest Interlinear file (though it seems that Stolfi's version has
> a
>> lot more in it, please correct me if I am wrong).  Are their any other
>> resources I should be reading to get myself caught up with the latest
>> advances in this field?
> You might want to get and read the mail traffic from this list; the archives
> are available from the beginning, back in 1991. It's rather intimidating,
> though fascinating.  Member Nick Pelling is working toward getting the
> archives made into a searchable database.
> Current discussions include Jeff's decoding scheme, the plan to get a
> digital copy of the VMs made, several historical figures, my recent
> discovery of (apparently) the date 1708 written on f1r and its possible
> connection to the alphabet table there.
> As far as I can determine, there are two books still in print: D'Imperio's
> monograph and Levitov's book. I have the first, and have ordered the
> second through Border's Books.
> Gypsy wrote:
>> ....hello, I am new to the list so please forgive me if I seem ignorant on
> alot of the aspects of the VM.
> Welcome to the club!  : )
>> I am wondering ..........is it a fact that the manuscript is in code or
> could it be an unknown language?
>> Perhaps a dead one?  Or alien one?
> Nobody knows (yet), although Jeff's attempt using Italian seems to hold
> promise.
>> Also all the pictures of the plants.........have any been identified?
> Thanks in advance.  ~Gypsy
> Some, but I couldn't tell you which.
> Robert
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