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VMs: Some thoughts/observations on some other thoughts/observations....



At 10:53 20/02/2004 +0000, Nick Pelling wrote:
The question also arises as to why they would use a character set which is unsuited to fast writing with a quill (this would seem to be a very poor decision),

Hmmm... why do you say that? Actually it seemed to me quite easy and fast to write with a quill, like most of the derivatives of _littera moderna_ (of which the Vms writing is one). In any case, not slower than any University ms. of the XIII c. Derivatives of the _littera antiqua_, which seem more familiar to us, because it is ultimately our writing (and then probably look 'faster' to us), are actually significantly slower to write.


[...] and I find it even harder to imagine a faker using a barely-writable character set

As I have already noted, the Vms writing is *completely* within the late-medieval, _littera moderna_ Latin writing system and technique: it is *very* writable.


At 17:03 20/02/2004 -0500, John Grove wrote:
What remains
unfortunately consistent is that almost all VMS characters are constructed
in a very regular pattern. I'm not talking about looking for hidden pieces -
I'm talking about looking at an 's' and and 'r' in the VMS and seeing they
look identical except for the initial stroke being either curved like a 'c'
or straight like an italic 'i'. The same goes for 'b' and 'n', 'g' and 'm',
'cth' and 'ith', etc...

This is exactly what_littera moderna_ is all about! Stroke assimilation. Look at any average ms. of, say, XIII-XV c. (by 'average' I mean a ms. which is neither an over-crafted dedication copy, which usually re-styles the writing, or a scrapbook like St. Thomas' autographs, where cursivity takes over) and you'll find exactly the same assimilation, in exactly the *same* character parts.


This has been theorized by early-modern writing teachers (like Vicentino or Tagliente) when they describe the _littera moderna_ (by then a relic of the past, at least in Italy) as made by only three elements (namely: _testa_, _traversa_ and _taglio_ ["head", "crossing" and "cut"], but their precise identification is less important than the fact that they are only three and allow to construct all the characters).

(Note: The above datings are quite broad, because the change from _moderna_ to _antiqua_ happened at different times over Europe; it started during late XIV / early XV in Italy and took almost a century to reach Burgundy and Germany. In addition, in Northern Europe it only applied to Latin, vulgar being still written in some _moderna_ variation, like _lettre bastarde_ or _fraktur_. To make things even more complex, Irish writing in the North and Beneventan writing in the South showed stroke assimilation as early as IX - X c.)

At 19:10 20/02/2004 +0000, William Edmondson wrote:
Re VMs there are three options.

1/ complete gibberish [...]

2/ completely genuine [...]

3/ forgery/fake in the sense that it is readable if you know the key, but probably banal/meaningless in actual content.[...]

The difference between 2. and 3. seems to me 'simply' in the cultural value of the text. Either there is an underlying text or not: this is the main distinction. The relevance of this text is a second-level distinction (which may have several grades, not only two).






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