Re: VMs: Initial gallows

["Jeff" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Nick Pelling incoming@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote
on 28 March 2004 11:04


> Hi Larry,
>
> At 18:57 27/03/2004 -0500, Larry Roux wrote:
> >What I am finding as a problem related to a code change system is the
> >preponderance of common words (dar) that seem to equate to an "and".  if
> >the code basis changed (cypher, table, or whatever) you would think these
> >words would change too.  But then I have not investigated whether those
> >words are common to certain paragraph prefaces (t, k, p, f).

I am assuming that you won't find this to be the case. However I would love
to be proved wrong. :-)

>
> ...or perhaps your "you would think" clause is wrong (and in Voynichese,
> there ain't-a no sanity clause).
>
> Again, if you conclude that the VMs is most likely a cipher-system with
> some kind of local mode-change switch (whether gallows or otherwise), you
> have to reconcile that with global (mode-independent) properties of
'words'
> like <dain daiin daiiin> etc (and in fact with most <d-> words).
>

This tends to suggest a static nature to the text. Steve Ekwall maybe more
right than anyone thinks.

> So... is it a local (mode-change) cipher, or a global (structured) cipher
> (using verbose pairs like qo, dy, or, ol, etc)? I think it has to be both
> at the same time - and that the VMs' system is composed of multiple
smaller
> cipher-systems assembled together in an ingenious way (boringly, I've been
> saying this for years). Think of it as a compilation CD - "Now That's What
> I Call Ciphers (1460 remix)", probably with about 12 tracks. :-)
>

I'd say the verbose idea is more valid. Peculiarly structure seems to hold
using various methodologies. The VMS is certainly too structured to be a
trivial hoax.

> Cheers, .....Nick Pelling.....
>
>
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