Re: VMs: OT: You can't keep Bletchley vets down!

[Rene Zandbergen <r_zandbergen@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, but in 

http://priory-of-sion.com/psp/id35.html

one may read:

There is no definite explanation for the inscription.
A quote "Out Your Own Sweet Vale, Alicia, Vanishes
Vanity, twixt Deity and Man thou shepherdest the way"
(this is the correct version) comes from Lord
Lichfield?s grandmother. She claimed that it referred
to a shepherdess who converted pagans on one of the
hills of Rome. Though there are several legends of the
kind, none refer to "Alicia" and comparison of two
letters from her on the subject to myself and Paul
Smith makes it clear that she thought up the
inscription herself to fit, rather than remembered it,
so this is an intriguing red herring!

Cheers, Rene

--- DANA SCOTT <dscott520@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> "Out of your own sweet vale Alicia vanish vanity
> twixt Deity and Man, thou 
> Shepherdess the way".
> 
> http://smithpp0.tripod.com/psp/id16.html
> 
> Regards,
> Dana Scott
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rene Zandbergen" <r_zandbergen@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 2:06 AM
> Subject: Re: VMs: OT: You can't keep Bletchley vets
> down!
> 
> 
> > Jim wrote:
> >
> > > This looks to me like initials, as are used (for
> > > example) in the
> > > booklets you sometimes see that remind Masons of
> the
> > > wording of
> > > their rituals.  I'd guess Latin -- perhaps even
> a
> > > known tag.
> > > Perhaps something like "Ora Ut Omnia Veritas,
> Amor,
> > > Virtus Vincunt"[...]
> >
> > Jim has got the right idea. You can't keep
> > Voynich MS Vets down either. Let's take up
> > the unintended challenge. Allright, our record
> > at solving ciphers is not quite up to the
> > Bletchley standard, but our two Jims at least
> > have chalked up 5 very famous ones that I know of,
> > some of them hundreds of years older than code
> > purple.
> >
> > Therefore I would propose that everybody sends
> > to me (r_zandbergen@xxxxxxxxx) his or her own
> ideas
> > what the abbreviation could stand for and I
> > will summarise to the list before the end of
> > May.
> > Better not to clog the list with endless
> > suggestions including quotes of all previous
> > suggestions..... (so don't just "Reply" to this
> > E-mail).
> >
> > Looking forward to the fruit of your imagination,
> > which I know to be vast, from experience over
> > the years :-)
> >
> > Summaries of earlier proposed solutions are
> > of course also welcome.
> >
> > Rene
> >
> >
> >
> >
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