Re: Re: VMs: Gordon Rugg in Scientific American

["Jan" <hurychj@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello Nick,  

well, it looks like Gordon Rugg has thrown some challenge in our face - why don't we return it 
back? Imagine publishing  10 different texts encrypted each by DIFFERENT Cardan grille, the 
original texts being in the same language, but only one of them being a fraud (I do not exactly 
understand what he means by fraud:  the "non-sensical original" or something worse? :-).  If he 
can determine which text it  is, he certainly can make a point.

No I am not expert on Cardan grille  - so  it may  be still easy for him, but to make  it more 
complicated, we may use different language for each text or combination of two grills and what not. Or we may even try to simulate the VM structure. This e-mail conference may chose a group of experts for the job and the posting of challenge  should be done in some well known publication. Do you think he will be a game?

Jan

======= At 2004-06-23, 15:19:00 you wrote: =======

>Hi Rene,
>
>At 06:48 23/06/2004 -0700, Rene Zandbergen wrote:
>>Yes, I'm still mystified about the connection to
>>the study of Alzheimer's disease, in the last
>>paragraph of the article.
>
>Ah, that's the beauty of the modified Cardan grille - you can tweak it to 
>produce just about any special case word you require, even rarities such as 
>Al-z-he-im-er-s. :-)
>
>Just move your grille randomly enough to convince other computer scientists 
>that there's meaning in the output (if there's negentropy, there has to be 
>meaning, right? [*]), and you can hoax whatever you like with it. :-)
>
>Cheers, .....Nickel Pling..... :-)
>
>[*] Wrong, actually. 
>
>
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