VMs: Re: Culpeper on Henbane

["DANA SCOTT" <dscott520@xxxxxxx>]

Hello Pamela and Welcome,

Thank you very much for your observations relating Astrology to the Herbs in 
the VMS. I is good to have specialists in this area join the VMS discussion 
group. The first question I might ask is why would this be important to the 
author of the VMS to the extent that it would require being veiled in 
secrecy? What poison does s/he hide? Secondly, it might be said that "timing 
is everything". Since Culpeper postdates the VMS, it would be necessary to 
weed out what came after the VMS versus what was introduced before and 
during its 'enscryption'. It would not surprise me if the Astrological / 
Herbal connection proves true in the VMS, but I wonder for what reason that 
might be?

Regards,
Dana Scott


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pamela Richards" <spirlhelix@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 6:25 PM
Subject: VMs: Culpeper on Henbane


> Greetings
>
> Here is an entry from Culpeper on Henbane, one of the
> plants that I have read has been identified as a VMs
> herb.  Culpeper gives its rulership to Saturn and
> scoffs at a knowledgeable source which attributes
> rulership to Jupiter.  It is possible to use the same
> herb with a different intention, which would help to
> explain why the rulership of a plant can be attributed
> to more than one planet.
>
> Please note the use of astrological terms in the text,
> which may have been expressed with glyphs in a similar
> text such as the VMs.
>
>
>
>
> "HENBANE.
> Description.
>
> Our common Henbane hath very large, thick, soft, wooly
> Leavs lying upon the ground, much cut in or torn on
> the edges of a dark ill grayish green colour, among
> which rise up divers thick & short Stalks two or three
> foot high, spread into divers smaller Branches with
> lesser Leavs on them, and many hollow Flowers scarce
> appearing above the Husks, and usually torn on the one
> side, ending in five round points growing one above
> another, of a deadish yellow colour, somwhat paler
> toward the edges, with many purplish Veins therein,
> and of a dark yellowish purple in the bottom of the
> Flower, with a smal pointel of the same colour in the
> middle, each of them standing in hard close Husk,
> which after the Flower is past, groweth very like the
> Husk of Asarabacca, and somwhat sharp at the top
> Points, wherein is contained much smal Seed very like
> Poppy Seed, but of a dusky grayish colour. The Root is
> great, white and thick, branching forth divers waies
> under ground, so like a Parsnip Root (but that it is
> not so white) that it hath deceived divers. The whol
> Plant more than the Root hath a heavy ill soporiferous
> smell somwhat offensive.
>
>
> Place.
> It commonly groweth by the way sides, and under Hedg
> sides and Wals.
>
>
> Time.
> It Flowreth in July, and springeth again yeerly of its
> own Seed.
>
> I doubt my Author mistook July for June, if not for
> May.
>
>
> Vertues and Use.
> The Leavs of Henbane do cool all hot Inflamations in
> the Eyes or any other part of the Body; and are good
> to asswage all manner of Swellings of the Cods or
> Womens Breasts, or els where, if they be boyled in
> Wine, and either applied themselves or the Fomentation
> warm; it also asswageth the pain of the Gout, the
> Sciatica and all other pains in the Joynts which arise
> from an hot caus. And applied with Vinegar to the
> Forehead and Temples, helpeth the Headach and want of
> sleep in hot Feavers. The Juyce of the Herb or Seed,
> or the Oyl drawn from the Seed doth the like. The Oyl
> of the Seed is helpful for the Deafness, Nois, and
> Worms in the Ears, being dropped therein; the Juyce of
> the Herb, or Root doth also the same. The Decoction of
> the Herb, or Seed, or both, killeth Lice in Man and
> Beast. The fume of the dried Herb Stalks and Seed
> burned, quickly healeth Swellings, Chilblains, or
> Kibes in the Hands or Feet, by holding them in the
> fume thereof. The Remedy to help those that have taken
> Henbane is to drink Goats Milk, Honyed Water or Pine
> Kernels, with Sweet Wine: or in the absence of these,
> Fennel Seed, Nettle Seed, the Seed of Cresses,
> Mustard, or Radish, as also Onions, or Garlick taken
> in Wine, do all help to free them from danger, and
> restore them to their due temper again.
>
> [EDGENOTE:] Inflamation, Cods, Womens Breasts, Gout,
> Sciatica, Joynts, Watching, Deafness, Noise in the
> Ears, Chilblains, Kibes, French Pox.
>
> Take notice that this Herb must never be taken
> inwardly, outwardly, an Oyl, Oyntment, or Plaister of
> it, is most admirable for the Gout, to cool the
> Venerial heat of the Reins in the French Pox, to stop
> the Toothach being applied to the aching side, to
> allay all Inflamations, and to help the Diseases
> before premised.
>
> I wonder in my Heart how Astrologers could take on
> them to make this an Herb of Jupiter, and yet
> Mizaldus, a man of a penetrating Brain, was also of
> this Opinion as wel as the rest, the Herb is indeed
> under the Dominion of Saturn, and I prove it by this
> Argument.
>
> All the Herbs which delight most to grow in Saturnine
> places, are Saturnine Herbs.
>
> But Henbane delights most to grow in Saturnine places,
> and whol Cart loads of it may be found neer the places
> where they empty the common Jakes, and scarce a
> stinking Ditch to be found without, it growing by it.
>
> Ergo 'tis an Herb of Saturn.
>
> [p. 65]"
>
>
>
>
> =====
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> stars how not to dance."
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