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Re: VMs: A Possible Interpretation of the Four Figures, one with an Egg

Hi, Nick and Eric

I get a funny feeling when I look at those Zodiac
drawings.  The first time I saw them, I felt
physically ill and had to look at something else. 
Misdirection, perhaps?

They are just a little too wierd.  Like looking into
the face of a little girl and finding out she's really
an old woman, or something.


I'm trying to look at them again, but they still don't
sit right with me.  I'm beginning to think perhaps
they are not all they seem, either.

Nick, are all ten bound together?  I had the
impression that they came in a quire of eight, or
something.  Any information would be appreciated.



--- Nick Pelling <nickpelling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Eric,
> At 16:10 11/09/2004 -0700, Eric wrote:
> >If it is (B), then, it leaves out Steganography,
> which
> >by nature would go for (A) but then trick you. You
> are
> >sure you know what it is and you have no suspicions
> >otherwise, but... you're wrong :).
> But... it basically looks like a herbal written in a
> simple substitution 
> cipher, right? So the answer's actually (A), right?
> >However... not completely... maybe, in using the
> >zodiacs for cover, there was no way the author
> could
> >completely conceal their real message so that the
> >reader wouldn't think to themselves, "It's a
> zodiac...
> >but kind of a strange one. Hmmm." It was just the
> best
> >they could do.
> The zodiac diagrams (end Quire 10 to end Quire 12)
> are quite different from 
> the cosmological / astronomical circular diagrams
> (Quire 9 to mid-end Quire 
> 10), which are quite different again from the later
> "magic-circle-like" 
> diagrams we're particularly discussing.
> BTW, one fascinating aspect of the zodiac diagrams
> (Pisces - Sag) is that, 
> like the main Roman agricultural calendar, it starts
> in February and has 
> ten months followed by winter (of an unspecified
> duration). Or the last two 
> signs were removed by Baresch for Kircher. Who
> knows? :-p
> >They used Steganography, but they were no
> Trithemius.
> Right - it's much cleverer than Trithemius' codes,
> isn't it? :-)
> >Which then leaves the writing itself. Writing like
> >that screams out that it is encrypted or a secret
> >language. The exact opposite of Steganography.
> Unless,
> >that's what the author wanted you to think ;-)
> No, I think you're missing the point there:
> Voynichese was designed to look 
> like a simple substitution cipher, while actually
> being something far more 
> industrial strength, which is why many people think
> at first they should be 
> able to crack it with ease - suckers! :-o
> Now *that's* what I call misdirection. :-)
> Cheers, .....Nick Pelling..... 
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