RE: VMs: On the VMs zodiac

["John Grove" <John@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

	Argh... not black and white again! I thought we got rid of that several
years ago.
They are NOT black and white. They are varying shades of color - Taurus are
both red - one is
just a richer red than the other for example.

	The zodiac folios are in order - most of them are on long fold-outs that
connect and prove
their order. There is no doubt that the images depict what the author
expected were Pisces 29 nymphs/30 labels,
Aries -15, Aries -15, Taurus -15, Taurus-15, etc with 30 each...

	Noise is abundant at times, but the list is alive. At other times the list
is quite silent and no noise
exists at all - but neither does signal. I'm all for freely tossing out
ideas - I am not particular to rants that everybody else is wrong or vague
comments like 'I know some of you are so close to finding the answer, or as
soon as I get all my data together I'm going to prove something...', but you
are all entitled to blab. Yeah - it's a little heavy lately and admittedly I
skim through or basically don't read many of the posts on some threads, but
I do keep it around. Who knows - someday it might actually trigger a thought
like 'hmmmm, that sounds familiar'.

	Keep reading and deleting at will; but by all means keep writing your
thoughts - yeah, even those way out in left field - you might notice
something yet that hasn't been noticed before. 8-) [Notice I didn't say who
was out in left field - because it all depends on your perspective]

	Have fun and keep at it folks!

	John Grove.

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Behalf Of Nick Pelling
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 3:57 PM
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Subject: Re: VMs: On the VMs zodiac


Hi Marianna,

At 02:08 12/10/2004 +0300, you wrote:
>I've been thinking about the VMs zodiac: there are 12 drawings (Aries and
>Taurus twice, and Aquarius and Capricorn missing). What if:
>- The "Aries" is actually Capricorn, as proposed by Rene Zandbergen
>- The "Taurus" is actually Aries
>Thus, we are missing Aquarius and Taurus, and the two-fold nature of some
>signs (Aries and Capricorn are represented twice (black & white), and
>Libra and Cancer have half of them coloured black (the other crab and the
>other cup of the scale)) gets an explanation: the equinoxes and the
solstices:
>- the spring equinox: Aries
>- the summer solstice: Cancer
>- the autumn equinox: Libra
>- the winter solstice: Capricorn

I think it's true that most of us have lazily taken the "month ordering"
for granted - but there may well be good reasons (like the one you outline)
to discard that as being representative of the authors' original layout. I
like the black/white equinox/solstice connection, but... it's only a start.

The next challenge is to try to understand what that would mean for the
ordering of the zodiac pages, much as we've tried to do for Quire 9.
Essentially, if your idea is right, how were the zodiac pages originally
folded and bound? Can you hear its signal through the noise?

Cheers (encouragingly), .....Nick Pelling.....


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