Re: VMs: Re: Leo Levitov questions

[Ronald Lorenzo <rlorenzomba@xxxxxxxxx>]

1 + 1 = 2 only in some systems of mathematics.  To say
that 1 + 1 = 2, you must state whose mathematics you
are using.  But then again, you expect people to
assume that you are using a base ten system of
calculation.

Facts are social constructs as well.  A fact of
course, being nothing more than an observation
acknowledged by a group of soi disant experts.  Facts
are contingent upon the needs of a self-declared group
of "experts."  What is a fact?  50 years ago, people
who suffered from alcoholism were just told they were
bums, irresponsible, morally deficient, etc.  But now
the same group of people is told, "you have a disease,
a fact ascertained by psychologists."  The person has
not changed, and neither has the condition.  The only
thing changed, of course, is the "fact" because a
self-declared group of experts/authorities have
declared it to be a fact.  

For other examples of the contentious nature of facts,
please refer to the current presidential campaign.

Cheers.

- R. Lorenzo


--- Rene Zandbergen <r_zandbergen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> --- Ronald Lorenzo <rlorenzomba@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Leo Levitov's reading of the text is a
> controversial
> > one.  Having said that, I would not say that the
> > reading is completely wrong.  Levitov's reading is
> > just one reading of the text and no worse/better
> > than anyone elses.  
> 
> Well, Jonathan was not asking about his reading
> but about his solution. His solution is
> unacceptable,
> and no better or worse than anyone elses, which
> are also unacceptable.
> 
> > However, as the philosopher Richard
> > Rorty stated, truth is a social construct. 
> 
> But fact isn't. 
> 
> A fact is that 1+1 = 2
> 
> Another one is that many VMs students have shown
> their rejection of the solution of Levitov and none
> have
> expressed their acceptance.
> 
> > Unfortunately for Mr. Levitov, the community of
> > cryptographers hasn't decided what the "truth" (or
> > truths) about the Voynich MS is(are).  Levitov's
> > reading is a private one and not the accepted
> public
> > one.
> 
> See above.
> 
> Kind regards, Rene Zandbergen
> 
> 
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