Hi Jean-yvesWell, when you have seen a John Dee MS with VMS characters in it that was writtenbefore he met Edward Kelley it makes the case for you. However John Dee did notwrite the VMS.*grin*Jeff----- Original Message -----From: jean-yves arteroSent: 30 October 2004 11:07Subject: Re: VMs: Highly uneven word distributionHi JeffThis is a clearcut and therefore very interesting statement. Perhaps you will be so kind as to share with others the reasons you had to make it.IMHO the best way to be sure is to have an evidence of whom wrote the VMS ( and this man or woman was not Edward Kelley ) and of the fact he did it alone and hence in that case without any help from Talbot. Are we here at the moment? I am not but perhaps you are.Another possible way could be to be sure that EK was obviously not in a position to write it,because VMS was written before his birth. For this, we are oblidged to state about the date of writing.A more tricky one is to state that VMS was written after his death; but now we are facing the theoretical possibility that VMS could be a rewriting which at that time was quite not uncommon.And finally - but perhaps there are more possible arguments - the most tricky one would be to have deciphered it or encoded it and to find out in the "plain text" that there is a series of facts that obviously is beyond Talbot's knowledge. For instance I would say news from the next President of the United States.But even that (smile) could be objected, for instance by references to an Enochian angel.Best regards,Jean