Re: VMs: Southern Alchemy

[jean-yves artero <jyartero@xxxxxxxx>]

Hi Dana,

 

Thanks again for this. Tried and searched further, with almost no success at all. The attached links are more or less already well known:

 

Cesky Krumlov and Rosenberg's :

http://www.ckrumlov.cz/uk/mesto/histor/t_alchym.htm

http://www.ckrumlov.cz/cz1250/mesto/histor/i_alchym.htm

http://ois.ckrumlov.info/de/osobno/i_vilzro.htm

http://ois.ckrumlov.info/de/mesto/histor/i_revevr.htm

Lavinius and alchemy :

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/a-archive_dec01.html

One problem is that our Lavin or Lavinius has many names and surnames: for

instance it s known in BNF ( French National Bibliotheque ) as Vinceslas,

and also Wenceslaus, all reminding us of Vaclav of course, sometime he is referenced at

as Venceslas, etc...

Jean

Dana Scott <dscott520@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Jean,

 

I made the rough translation of Lavinius's "Tractatus de Caelo Terrestri" myself.  In my haste, I missed a few basic corrections noted below.

 

"The natural removes the substantial excrement, well with the terrestrial limo (slime) that is converted in later or will for adustion (scorching)."

 

"The art is above the laws of nature and finally remains transformed in a king who infinitely rebase (outgrows; is reborn?) to other truths."

                        

In most cases the original punctuation has not been altered. For a proper translation into English, my efforts clearly need further work.

 

There is very little on the internet that I have been able to find on Václav Lavín.

 

Previously referenced:

http://www.ckrumlov.cz/uk/mesto/histor/t_alchym.htm

Czech:

http://www.ckrumlov.cz/cz1250/zamek/oinf/i_renpre.htm

 

Referenced by Václav Bøezan:

http://www.ckrumlov.cz/uk/osobno/i_vacbre.htm

http://krizik.felk.cvut.cz:8080/tradice/obn25-c16.jsp

http://www.bohemianet.com/jizni_cechy/kratochvile/kratochvile_en.htm

http://www.knihovna-uo.cz/Clavius/l.dll?cll~5818

http://www.knihovna-uo.cz/Clavius/eng/l.dll?cll~60575 

 

Reference to LAVÍN Z OTTENFELDU:

http://www.geocities.com/heartland/bluffs/2868/Erb/Pfefferkorn.htm

 

Matyá? Tymín Lavín z Ottenfeldu

http://www.jednotabratrska.cz/lab.htm

 

In Spanish:

http://www.nueva-acropolis.org.ar/NA_Art_Alquimista_RodII.htm

 

Festival of the Five-petal Rose: (possibly related to Baresch's seal)

http://www.ckrumlov.info/docs/en/slperu2004pruvody.pdf

 

----- Original Message -----

From: jean-yves artero

To: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:40 AM

Subject: Re: VMs: Southern Alchemy

Hi Dana,

 

Great! Did you translate it yourself or found it on the web ( I was unable to ) or...? This is anyway the first English version I happen to see.

 

As Jan told, there is enough hint to the identification of Lavin Vaclav with Lavinius Venceslas for now. As you possibly saw, the hunt for Pontanus is more intricate, and Baresch looks really to be - at the moment - an "invisible".

 

Would you happen to learn more about V.L., I'll surely be interested.

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