Re: Re: Re: VMs: Olomouc and Barcius

["jan" <hurychj@xxxxxxxxx>]

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Hi Jean, 

you wrote:

>Your Czech astrologer is interesting, but Barschius is supposed to have owned a 
collection 
of alchemy books. Is there any alchemical hint pertaining to Brozek?

-------No whatsoever,  just in that book  - I was surprised that the castle even exists :-).

>About Barcius/Sternberg now, the dates are not that bad matching with the supposed 
VMS history.
Here are some details:
1550 first known edition of Rosarium Philosophorum, author is supposed to be 
Barcius/Sternberg;
1570 (circa) Czech version of the above
1602 According to British Library, appearance of Gloria Mundi, author supposed to be 
B/S;
1620 According to Fergsuson, known first edition  of GM.

--------I have searched Czech net and found absolutely nothing about Jan ze Sternberka 
(Czech spelling, actually ze  ?ternberka :-) . The origin of the  name is apparently German 
( "Stern Berg" means starry mountain) and I cannot find anything in Czech or Latin at 
least distantly similar to Barcius so what if it is misspelled our Barschius?
Then  of course  the first  two dates above would be well before his birth. 

>Please also note the relevance of Vossius collection in Leiden, the partial origin of which 
is well known.
I am not at all surprised by the two names, Barcius and Sternberg in this case: could be 
an "ecclesiastic effect", or an alchemical one; see for instance on the latter Vaughan and 
Philalethes 
or in the U.S. the lately Adiramled.

------Now there were 3 ways of adding other names to  one's name at that time: one was   
the translation:
Sinapi means mustard, that is horcice ( horczice as written then) and second to identity of 
location, say Bojanovicensis (meaning from Bojanovice). Horczicky than changed it after 
his nobilitatio to "de Tepenec". Those are two ways, but  I cannot find any reference to 
Barcius nor Sternberg.  (One possible name is Barak, meaning the house, apparently 
derived from similar root as "baracks" in English, that is military buildings  - same way as 
"kamerad" originally meant "soldiers living in  the same camera", that is "room", lately of 
course getting quite different meaning :-). 

The third way is creation of something like nickname or alias, such as Paracelsus ( I 
believe it was in  his case).
 
>Frankly speaking, I am more poised about the "Baresch" cognomen. Could be a 
"czechization" of Barcius, perhaps. 

Name Bare?, pronounced "Baresh" (German "Baresch")  is very common in Bohemia, so 
common people think it IS Czech  name :-). The suffix "esch" is of course Czech one, 
similar to "er" in English, say bake - baker. There is of course no "baring"  in Bohemia ( 
meaning Czech verb with "bar" :-). So it is probably of Jewish or German origin, but I 
doubt it would be derived from Barcius or Barschius, more likely vice verso.

>Here is the present main source of my doubt:

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/philipneal_vms/barschius.html

"Pragae Anno Domini 1639. 27 die Aprilis, quo olim Romam, in Universitate Sapientiae 
Romanae, Predicae Sapientiae operam daturus, apprili Anno Domini 1605. 
Vestrae Reverendae Paternitate 
Ad obsequia 
Peroratissimus 
M. Georgius Baresch "

------Perorat means to "deliver the conclusion of the speach", while "issimuss" means " 
the most" - it does not make too much sense. Also, I noted some of his  greetings are not 
usual for the member of clergy  -of that time - using the word "God" where they rather 
used  "Christ", etc.)

http://193.206.220.68/kircher/aspimage.asp?ID=1991
What is the real signature of this letter?

You have to reverse the picture horizontally, then we can clearly see M. Georgius B.... ( 
looks more like Barschius than Baresch) the rest is a guess,
it could very well be Barcius, but  there is a hint of "h" there.
I wondered what M. meant. It could not have been "Magister" meaning "Bachelor" ( per 
Rene's latest discovery he was a Doctor at that time already. So it could be Master or 
something else. Funny  to mention, "magister" was also the title of apothecary ( till the 
last century) meaning  a "chemist".

By the way, did you see the discussion 
about Baresch's alleged book at:
http://www.voynich.net/Arch/2002/03/msg00070.html
There was a confusion of Barchusen with Barchius ( not Barschius :-).

>Perhaps Philip or somebody else has an answer; in other words, if there is no
Baresch, I have little doubt that Barcius could be Barschius; if there is one, one
has to further investigate.


I am sure the signature can be analyzed further - besides, it looks like there are two 
more lines of text under his name. Come to think of it - Marci called him Barschius in his 
letter as well as in his book. Where did we get the name Baresch then?  Maybe from his 
original Czech name Bares' ( Bare?)? 


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