VMs: "Italians in Asia" ... how could it work?

[mesinik@xxxxxx]

Of course, the "silkroad" in 1500 was mostly about pepper etc. The last decades
of XVth century it was Venezian business (from European point of view).

A very big business. So, did Venezians just only have there offices in
Alexandria, Egypt? No, they probably tried to have more or less visible
informants/outposts a little bit everywhere on the way to Mandalay ... and more.

These people out there (working for Venezian trade) was probably pretty rich. If
there was "real Europeans" among them and I think there was, then there was
European books and literacy, too.  But when Portugal found out the way to move
big gunships to Indian ocean, that trade was over. As I told a couple of weeks
ago, the decicive battle happened 499 years and a couple of weeks ago.

After this, the Venezian intelligence/trade network becomes unemployed. Will
they try to sail "home"? I am not so sure about this. You see, nobody is waiting
for them. Let's think, someone out there becomes a doctor ... If "your father
was an European astrologist and your mother a shaman from Tibet" (or vice versa
or both, and more, etc), many sick people will feel better, if you just look at
them. So, our "doctorman" has some European books at home, these will be a
paradigm for the VMS.

Because of his background, he just can write in fluent "humanist hand". He finds
some informants and he takes to write down information about some medical herbs
(and more medical "science"), phonetically in some local language. A good
question still is, where did he pick up the mystery-glyphs?

The "SinoTibetian" argument could make the problem much easier. Let's look at
the "silkroad" (actually "Pepperroute") of the XVth century:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/asia_mediaeval_commerce.jpg
it meets Sino-Tibetan world in Chittagong, Burma (Burmese and many smilar
languages are Sino-Tibetan tongues) and from other, northern side in Pamir,
Central Asia ... Afghanistan is probably a little bit too westwards for
Sino-Tibetan languages

Quoting jean-yves artero <jyartero@xxxxxxxx>:
> Hi 
> On silkroad, Afghanistan is probably one of the most interesting countries,
> perhaps
> with Syria.
>  
> One main reason is that in its history we can find the explanation of the
> intrication
> of Western and Oriental cultures we still are able to contemplate in some
> remnant
> works of art, for instance.
>  
> I remember you already showed coins on this list and your attached statues
> are a 
> sufficient evidence of the above IMO.
>  
> Please find here an other link, with again coins, but also with something
> almost directly
> Voynichese, as it appears to me:
>  
> http://www.afghan-network.net/Culture/coins.html
>  
> I mean: the quasi zodiacal plate, of course.
>  
> Jean
> 
> 
> mesinik@xxxxxx wrote:
> Quoting Jacques Guy :
> > They are apsaras (a Sanskrit word), heavenly 
> > nymphs.
> 
> yes, all this imaginary Mogao-team is a Buddhist one:
> http://www.hfc-hersfeld.de/hfc/marken/44.html
> 
> > >btw, in Bibliothèque nationale de France 
> > >there are drawings (Ink, on paper) of
> > >Sogdian (Central Asian) female deities
> 
> > Hindu I think. Unlike the Voynich nymphs
> 
> any scans in sight of these?
> 
> > they have heavy, round breasts, wasp-like
> > waists, and full bottoms. A very different
> > kind of female ideal.
> 
> a bit like these from Kabul?
> http://www.thewalt.de/afghanistan/teil2/pages/p1_69_04.htm
> http://www.thewalt.de/afghanistan/teil1/pages/p2_69_06.htm
> http://www.thewalt.de/afghanistan/teil1/pages/p2_69_02.htm
> http://www.thewalt.de/afghanistan/teil1/pages/p2_69_01.htm
> http://www.thewalt.de/afghanistan/teil1/pages/p2_69_04.htm
> 
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