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Re: VMs: Resending this...
On Saturday 23 April 2005 17:20, Elmar Vogt wrote:
> Since we all appeared to be a bit uneasy with the current transcription
> systems lately, and we're all unsure over what constitutes a VM character
> and what not, I had decided I'd set up my own transcription system in a
> whim:
>
> http://www.beamends.de/hidden/voynich_st.pdf
>
> The basic idea is that the Voynich characters are "decomposed" into a setof
> strokes, and the _strokes_ are transcribed -- ie a character like "d" canbe
> decomposed into a "c" and an "l", and we transcribe the "cl" combination.
Have you seen Frogguy and Stolfi's JSA encodings?
Your suggestion is very close to those (below).
Stroke-based encoding is very difficult to analyse because one introduces the
problem of cc c, c cc, ccc, c c c, and the need of another character to
separate strokes. To avoid this one creates new characters that merge those
highly correlated basic strokes and ends up more or less with the alphabets
we use now. :-/
The transcription of the 3rd word in the example you gave f87v.P.1 should be
<cpheodar>, not <cphodar> (you transcribed correctely in ST, but not in EVA.
The last but one word seems to be <oeeeochody> as there is no stroke
connecting the e's from above.
Another problem: eva <ch> as ST [ee] is ambiguous, one cannot tell if they are
connected from the top of the bottom of the stroke. (one cannot differentiate
between (ch) and (ee).
Cheers,
Gabriel
EVA Frogguy
---- ---------
cth cqpt
cph cqjt
ckh clpt
cfh cljt
a a
b c)
c c
ch ct
d 8
e c
f lj
g cg
h t
i i
iin iiv
in iv
j &
k lp
l x
m ig
n v
o o
p qj
q 4
r 2
s s
sh c't
t qp
u a)
v ^
x n
y 9
z z
-----------
EVA JSA
---- ---
cth cqjc
cph cqgc
ckh cljc
cfh clgc
' s
a ci
b cu
c c
ch cc
d cg
e c
f lg
g cj
h c
i i
j ig
k lj
l ix
m ij
n iu
o o
p qg
q q
r is
s cs
sh csc
t qj
u ciu
v cy
x t
y cy
z ij
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