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Re: VMs: Faces at the roots


On Monday, April 25, 2005, at 06:00 AM, Nick Pelling wrote:

Hi everyone,

At 01:23 25/04/2005 -0400, Luis Velez wrote:
.... regarding the labels/nulloes
.....

But that's just an aside: my real point is that Wayne seems to be (a) presuming that labels function in the way he'd expect them to behave, and then (b) looking for support for that idea. Methodologically, the problem with this is that, given sufficient persistence, you can find correlative support for just about any VMs-related hypothesis you like (though somewhat superficial, that's also basically how most economics seems to work) - but as correlation isn't causation, no-one moves forward.

Hi Nick! I admit that I will attack a problem like this both top down or bottom up but I would take issue with the suggestion that I presume the labels function in the way I'd expect then look for evidence to support the idea. I arrived at this suggestion that they are nulls after my initial query "that the labels could have meaning that might be teased out in reference to the drawings" didn't appear to be the case when looking at digraphs across subject matter folios and the position of the digraphs in the main text bodies. I think this may be the opposite of what you are suggesting, i.e., I didn't initially presume the label digraphs were nulls and then go looking for support. ... In any case, where one is attacking a problem of this nature, I wouldn't even agree that it would be inappropriate to have a hypothesis and then see if the existing data already developed support that hypothesis as opposed to looking at all of the data that has been developed and seeing if any hypothesis might fit (drawing a least squared line after collecting). Nonetheless, that wasn't what happened in this particular case. I think I have generally described the thought processes after considering label digraphs as parts of speech (nouns, adjectives, etc.) elsewhere today.

As to your Nullo body modification discussion below. What was in fact meant was "Nulloes" as written which is a historical use for nulls. If you put "nulloes" in google you will see such examples as in "Cyphars intermixt with Nulloes" You will note there is some significance to gates or double characters amongst sources that pop up as well.... While your body modification reference is interesting, Nulloes is indeed exactly what was intended.

Cheers,
Wayne



PS: a high-ranking link on Google...
http://encyc.bmezine.com/?Nullo
...from BME (body modification ezine) gives a very, errrrm, non-cryptographic description for "nullo". Colourful, though! :-) Perhaps "null" is what was intended? :-o

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