Re: VMs: Re: 67v: Single sticks, double-split, double-joined...

[<elillie@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Jeff

My thinking on a possible link between the VMs and the Maya is along the
lines of the Voynich author possibly having visited there in the early
16th century and been influenced by the sights he saw. If such were the
case, it would explain a few things I've noticed in the VMs:
1) The "Sky Band" borders we spoke of in the preceding message.

2) The extensive use in the Spanish glosses of several Aztec manuscripts
of the first "Big Red Weirdo" of VMs folio 1R. I detailed this in the
posting linked here.
     http://www.voynich.net/Arch/2005/01/msg00022.html

Here's a link to folio 1v of the Codex Mendoza which has the symbol twice.

     http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/world/images/s50p1.jpg


3) The forms of several of the plants, such as the sunflower and the pepper.

4) On folio 82R of the VMs, about 1/3 of the way down the center of the
page is a drawing of an object like a star but with several small circles
protruding from it. This bears a remarkable similarity to the symbol of an
Aztec sun god called Tonatiuh, especially the smaller forms used in the
manuscripts. This god is most well known as the face in the center of the
great Aztec Calender stone.
    On a side note, I've seen pictures of the Calander Stone where
    Tonatiuh is called the Prime Mover of the Universe. When I wrote my
    paper charting the correspondances between the VMs and Dante's Divine
    Comedy, I charted the starlike symbol on folio 82R as representing the
    Prime Mover in a section of Dante's Commedy called the Discourse of
    Statius (Purgatory--Canto XXV, line 70)

As you can see, I don't mind going out on a limb. The view is quite clear
out here.
Until later

Erni

> Hi Erni
>
> The Mayan link may be more relevant than anyone would ever believe.
> Mexico in particular may be a direct link back to the VMS. I know most
> people on this list may dismiss it as a crackpot idea but it is worth
> pursuing. Believe me it is.
>
> Nothing like going out on a limb to invite ridicule!
>
> Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <elillie@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: 29 April 2005 22:18
> Subject: Re: VMs: Re: 67v: Single sticks, double-split,
> double-joined...
>
>
>> Hello Jeff and Luis.
>>
>> I too had noticed the border you speak of on 67V1. It also occurs on
>> folio 67R2 where it alternates with several other repeating characters
>> of similar nature.
>> As to where you recall seeing something similar to this border, I've
>> always thought it looks alot like the "sky bands" that encircle a lot
>> of Mayan  sculpture panels and ceramic pieces. The "Sky Band"
>> represents the plane of the ecliptic and consists of a series of
>> glyphs representing astronomical bodies. Within their surviving
>> manuscripts, the Paris Codex has many good examples of "Sky Bands".
>> Two are at:
>> http://www.famsi.org/research/graz/paris/paris_page22.jpg
>>
>> http://members.shaw.ca/mjfinley/zodiac.jpg
>>
>> These were quickly located with a Google search for Paris Codex
>> Images. It and the other two main manuscripts (Madrid Codex and the
>> Dresden Codex)are all filled with examples of it.
>> Whether the single and double lines you note are examples of
>> additional content or signs of an impatient scribe I don't know.
>> Erni
>>
>>
>
>
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