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Re: VMs: Fw: Arctos

Hi Dana

I agree wholeheartedly with your identification of Geranium
Pelargonium on this page although I feel it was amalgamated
with another plant which I now believe I have identified. The
leaf forms are typically Geranium but the flowers are not.

Since 1983 I have owned The Herb Book by John Lust. This
details plants and medicinal effects. For Herb Robert (Geranium
robertianum) the medicinal part is described as the herb.

Properties and Uses: Astringent. Internal use of herb Robert is
recommended for diarrhea, gastritis, enteritis, gout, and
hemorrhage. A hot poultice of boiled leaves is said to be good
for bladder pains, fistulas, bruises, erysipelas, and persistent
skin problems. The green, crushed herb can also be applied to
relieve pain and inflammations. Use the tea also as a rinse for
inflammations in the mouth, and the dilute tea as an eyewash.

>From here:
we have this extract:

Geranium - Pelargonium species

The people of the Mediterranean claim the origin of the geranium.  According
to legend, once, when the prophet Mohammed washed his shirt, he laid it to
dry on a mallow plant.  when he took his shirt to dress again, the mallow
had been transformed into a brilliant geranium.

The first geraniums sent to Holland came from South Africa in 1609.  By
1650, the plants were common in Europe, where they were grown for their
beauty as well as for their fragrance.  By the mid 1700s, perfumeries were
cultivating geraniums for commercial use.  In the United States, Thomas
Jefferson grew the geranium as a houseplant both at the President's house
(later the White House)  and at Monticello.  Upon leaving the Presidency,
Jefferson gave geranium plants as a parting gift to friends.  But, during
the Victorian era, geraniums enjoyed their greatest popularity as a bedding
and indoor plant.

The geranium was so named because it was similar to the wild geranium
growing in many areas of Europe, and was erroneously classified as a
geranium.  The genus Geranium has entirely different characteristics."

Now it is interesting to note that "people of the Mediterranean
claim the origin of the geranium" because of the plant I suggest
for the flowering part of the illustration.

This is Verbascum Arcturus:
This plant I believe is indigenous to Crete, also a Mediterranean
plant. This plant is a Mullien. In the Herb Book we have a variety
of Mullien called Verbascum thapsus. The medicinal parts are
leaves and flowers.

Properties and Uses: Anodyne, antispasmodic, demulcent, diuretic,
expectorant, vulnerary. Mullien tea makes a good remedy for coughs,
hoarseness, bronchitis, bronchial catarrh, and whooping cough. It can
also be used for gastrointestinal catarrh and cramps in the digestive
tract. The flower tea will help relieve pain and induce sleep. For external
use on inflammations or painful skin conditions, use the tea or a
fomentation of the leaves boiled or steeped in hot vinegar and water. For
nasal congestion or other respiratory problems, breathe the vapor from
hot water with a handful of the flowers added. The crushed fresh flowers
are said to remove warts. A poultice of leaves or the powder of dried
leaves can be used for difficult wounds or sores.

Now I realise that there may be stark differences between members of the
same species but here there appears to be a certain crossover of
medicinal effects. Geranium maculatum (Spotted Cranebill) adds to the
effects of the Geranium, a mouthwash and gargle for sore throats, gum
problems, and throat and mouth sores. The Herb Book also states that
"One tribe of American Indians used a decoction of wild grape and spotted
cranebill root as a mouthwash for children who had thrush. The powdered
root is an effective blood clotting coagulant and can be used to stop

Now this last is an important properties for wound healing and when used in
conjunction with Mullien on such difficult wounds would be a very effective

BTW Anything I have found on f13r has been since John Koontz's original
post on the EVA variations. I had never looked closely at this page before
so how valuable this information is can only be determined by further
analysis of that particular page. Don't anyone just take my word for it.



----- Original Message -----
From: "DANA SCOTT" <dscott520@xxxxxxx>
To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 17 May 2005 12:26
Subject: RE: VMs: Fw: Arctos

> Hello Jeff,
> I am wondering what connection there would be between Arctos and the plant
> drawing on f13r?
> Geranium (Pelargonium): (page down)
> http://www.kagiken.co.jp/new/kojimachi/hana-geranium_large.html
> Regards,
> Dana Scott

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