Re: VMs: dating the VMS

[fion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

It will be quite hard to delimitate the periods. More likely this period 
would be approximatively  between 1450 and 1550. 


Thanks for the site, is very interesting. I like this "The vellum had to 
exist before it was written on." :).  It has, actually, a deep meaning.

Regards,
Florin

> On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Koontz John E wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 fion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > I was thinking of an way to date the ms. Roughly the history of numerals
> > could be broken in the following periods:
> >
> > 1. ... Roman numerals (XIVL)
> > 2. Roman numerals (XIVL) and/or Old-Style Arabic numerals (23l5...7^9)(Trans)
> > 3. Old-Style Arabic numerals
> > 4. Old-Style Arabic numerals and/or New-Style Arabic numerals (2345...789) (Trans)
> > 5. New-Style Arabic numerals ...
> >
> > Notes
> > - 2. and 3. are transition periods.
> > - Old-Style l(lambda look a like)=4 and ^=8
> > - New-Style is modern,current style
> >
> > Based on the facts that on one of pages numbers 12345 are written in the
> > new-style and page numbering is done on the old-style, it looks like the
> > ms was written in period 4.
> 
> See http://paleo.anglo-norman.org/medfram.html (and click on numerals) and
> http://paleo.anglo-norman.org/empfram.html (and click on technical
> points).  It appears that from an English paleographical perspective,
> simply using arabic numerals exclusively would date the paginator and the
> annotator to some time after the middle 16th Century, though another
> source says that arabic numerals were widestpread in Europe from the
> middle of the 15th Century
> (http://www.paratype.com/help/term/terms.asp?code=18).
> 
> In addition, this approach to dating would provide a terminating bracket
> of sorts, but not an actual date for the manuscript.  That is, the ms.
> must have been in existence when it was paged and annotated, but for how
> long?  The consensus is that these elements were added some time after the
> ms. was prepared, and not by the preparator.
> 
> Dating the materials used might be another approach, leading to a leadng
> bracket.  The vellum had to exist before it was written on.  It was likely
> new at the time, but might not have been.  I don't know what the
> technology is there.  Obviously such testing would require the full
> cooperation of the Beinicke Library!
> 
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