RE: RE: VMs: Michelangelo "code"

["John Grove" <John@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

	Wow, Racist - because I didn't bother going back through the email to find
out what Dirk's last name was. Amazing assumption on your part. Please
forgive my insensitivity toward bogus profiteering and those who sell it.
I'd just like to see some common sense demonstrated in a solution that
anyone can follow - logically. The context given by this ms408 solution
doesn't have any credibility simply because it has no foundation whatsoever;
I believe Rob demonstrated this quite well with Tolkien.

	Back to trying to make someone look silly... Am I the one trying to sell 'a
concept' to anyone willing to pay a ridiculous price; 'a concept' which
doesn't seem to relate well at all to the original document [granted, there
is a lot of room for fantasy in this document]. I don't think Dirk and
company are silly - I think they are great at marketing hot air, but those
who 'buy' into it - well, P.T. Barnum...

	If this was a serious endeavour on the part of these two individuals, then
I would expect a little less rhetoric and a lot more proof before you could
expect people on this list to start giving any credence to the solution.

	John.



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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 4:15 AM
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Subject: AW: RE: VMs: Michelangelo "code"


Dear Mr. John,
First of all, everybody has the right to agree or disagree with the new
approach - but only after he worked on the sources. Otherwise it?s only
superficial prejudice. You guy did definitely not.
So even if "some day someone just might come up with something that makes
sense" you will be the last one to realise instead you are physical present.
I am working on the sources without prejustice and I tell you it´s a lot of
stuff and I am not in the position to judge right now.

And second: I disagree with your racist attempt to make someone look silly
because he has a name difficult to pronounce for you (?Dirk whatshisname?).
If that is the level you are used to face subjects than It´s obvious why you
have to be for long time very sad.
Heidi

>	Some day someone just might come up with something that makes sense and
I'd
>love to be here when that happens. Sadly, nobody has come up with a
>consistent set of rules that make any sense. Whether Jona b. stultz is Ms.
>Ursula or Dirk whatshisname doesn't really matter much... the message that
>is continually coming forth is that the 'solution' is wonderful - yet there
>is no solution behind the wondrous praise given. P.T. Barnum would be happy
>with this approach to marketing nonsense. Oh... well, someday - I hope.
>
>       John.
>
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>Behalf Of Elmar Vogt
>Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:24 PM
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>Subject: Re: VMs: Michelangelo "code"
>
>
>
>
>Rob Hicks wrote:
>> Tom,
>>
>> I read the sample material before I posted, and it was on its 'merits'
>that I gave my opinion.
>>...
>
>Excellent summary of the pathological decipherment attempts which crop up
>time after time.
>
>Thanks, man!
>
>	Elmar
>
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