A version of the Salvator Mundi which was stolen has been recovered in Naples. It is said to have been painted C15th. The many versions of the painting all differ in their execution of the orbs, and this one appears to show a 2 arm galaxy in the style of NGC 1566 (Seyfert Galaxy). Like the pondered galaxy of the VM (f68v left) it is a very early date to be depicting a galaxy in any detai, and yet there it seems to be. If one is possible so is the other.
Salvator Mundi - with galaxy?:
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/18 ... 014241.jpg
2 arm galaxy:
https://allstarsblogs.com/wp-content/up ... re-7-2.png
VM 68v left:
https://old.world-mysteries.com/sar_13vmgal3.jpg
Of course that would bering into question when galaxies were first obsereved in detail, and the development of optics timeline.
Bunny
Yes, no, galaxy?
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Re: Yes, no, galaxy?
Further to the matter, links to more in-depth analysis and reminder of past comparison of another Salvator Mundi to the Voynich and astronomy. The Salvator Mundi versions are pretty similar in composition and posture but the details of the orbs differ considerably.
Link to the found Salvator Mundi:
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/18 ... 014241.jpg
Zoomable version:
https://freight.cargo.site/t/original/i ... Naples.jpg
Link to folder showing comparison of real imagery constrained to an orb with the found Salvator Mundi orb (1,2), an area for comparison which was of interest in the other Salvator Mundi of a winged disc type image (3), the other Salvator Mundi (4), and a reminder of comparison of it's orb to VM imagery (5,6).
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Agm18Wbzew1Oh3sVctH ... y?e=bMYUUi
Link to image showing galaxies used in comparison:
https://cdn.spacetelescope.org/archives ... 0810ac.jpg
Link to the found Salvator Mundi:
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/18 ... 014241.jpg
Zoomable version:
https://freight.cargo.site/t/original/i ... Naples.jpg
Link to folder showing comparison of real imagery constrained to an orb with the found Salvator Mundi orb (1,2), an area for comparison which was of interest in the other Salvator Mundi of a winged disc type image (3), the other Salvator Mundi (4), and a reminder of comparison of it's orb to VM imagery (5,6).
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Agm18Wbzew1Oh3sVctH ... y?e=bMYUUi
Link to image showing galaxies used in comparison:
https://cdn.spacetelescope.org/archives ... 0810ac.jpg
Re: Yes, no, galaxy?
Given that most know my supernova hypothesis over many years, includng Tycho's, I have aditional imagery to add. Imagery llinking SN 1572, the VM folios, Andromeda Galaxy and the Salvator Mundis. While there may be no galaxy represented given the accepted time frames, if there were Andromeda would be the only candidate.
Images prepared now but will add tomorrow. Now working on where it may point in the VM and what VM words or letters may be hghlighted.
Images prepared now but will add tomorrow. Now working on where it may point in the VM and what VM words or letters may be hghlighted.
Re: Yes, no, galaxy?
Well you know me enough by now to expect I would think the comparison is coincidence. But then most of the comparisions I make, my critics say are coincidence! A sort of Oroborus of fact checking, and nobody wins. Oh well.
Anyway, you may be familiar with my thought on the supernova/nova/galaxy thoughts in the VMs. This blog post has some of the earliest photography of several of them:
https://proto57.wordpress.com/2013/05/3 ... ds-nebula/
I love all the intrigue around the various Salvator Mundi paintings... everyone wants an original Leonardo, and probably one or more of these is. As I remember, though, one of the lesser globes... with surprising optical errors (for him?)... is in the one claimed as Leonardo. Or like that?
Rich.
Anyway, you may be familiar with my thought on the supernova/nova/galaxy thoughts in the VMs. This blog post has some of the earliest photography of several of them:
https://proto57.wordpress.com/2013/05/3 ... ds-nebula/
I love all the intrigue around the various Salvator Mundi paintings... everyone wants an original Leonardo, and probably one or more of these is. As I remember, though, one of the lesser globes... with surprising optical errors (for him?)... is in the one claimed as Leonardo. Or like that?
Rich.
"Man is the measure of all things: What is, that it is; what is not, that it is not"- Protagoras
Re: Yes, no, galaxy?
Hi Rich,
yes it's like everyone did their own version of the Salvator Mundi! No Intrigue here though, been bleating on about same things for years, supernovae and surrounding located areas such as chained Andromeda etc. etc. New bits of info and thoughts still come to light from time to time. The bit that will rile most is connecting it all to current and future events and that "just data" over very long time span is relevant and connected, real or fake.
If the VM it is old it should not show galaxies in detail of course (Newbold), if a newer fake it can show anything. There are instances of other standard looky-likeys of the era that explain things in very standard terms as below and yes they are most plausible, I'm looking at a different explanation.
http://www.voynich.nu/img/simil/ljs443.jpg
https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Ross.379/0083
https://www.knittingbuddha.com/wp-conte ... ript-1.jpg
Link to Andromeda, SN 1572, Schedar star map
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Agm18Wbzew1OiAbJ0AE ... i?e=MmPSUR
I think we are going to be shut away until the summer here now , so I may eventually get back to some standard research eg. normal code breaking attempts in different languages.
Bunny
yes it's like everyone did their own version of the Salvator Mundi! No Intrigue here though, been bleating on about same things for years, supernovae and surrounding located areas such as chained Andromeda etc. etc. New bits of info and thoughts still come to light from time to time. The bit that will rile most is connecting it all to current and future events and that "just data" over very long time span is relevant and connected, real or fake.
If the VM it is old it should not show galaxies in detail of course (Newbold), if a newer fake it can show anything. There are instances of other standard looky-likeys of the era that explain things in very standard terms as below and yes they are most plausible, I'm looking at a different explanation.
http://www.voynich.nu/img/simil/ljs443.jpg
https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Ross.379/0083
https://www.knittingbuddha.com/wp-conte ... ript-1.jpg
Link to Andromeda, SN 1572, Schedar star map
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Agm18Wbzew1OiAbJ0AE ... i?e=MmPSUR
I think we are going to be shut away until the summer here now , so I may eventually get back to some standard research eg. normal code breaking attempts in different languages.
Bunny