VMs: Re: RE: RE: Very important message!

["Jeff" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I have moved on from this point and am now finding italian words in the
text. I probably explained what I was posting very badly! In fact it was an
intermediate step. The statistics probably would have made no sense wothout
seeing the process that led up to them.

I don't blame anyone for being very cynical with my efforts, however I now
truly believe that the ms is written in early italian. Not latin, german,
french or english, but italian. The unusual properties of italian also show
up in voynichese. BTW finnish also exhibits unusual statistical properties,
though these statistics are someone elses work and not mine.

jeff

PS I will be away from the list for a while. When I finally get all my other
work straightened out I will be posting the results of 'the italian job' :-)

NOTE: April 1st is an immoveable object!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Comegys" <Comegys_J@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 15 October 2003 20:44
Subject: VMs: RE: RE: Very important message!


>
>
> > ----------
> > From: Jim Comegys
> > Reply To: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:37 AM
> > To: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: VMs: RE: Very important message!
> >
> > Hi Jeff,
> >
> > I cannot understand this stuff...could you give the equivalent in
straight Voynichese? If you don't have time I will see if I cannot locate
the originals from a Takeshi Page 1 or the original.   Thanks,  Jim Comegys
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From: Jeff
> > > Reply To: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 11:40 AM
> > > To: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: VMs: Very important message!
> > >
> > > Hi Jeff,
> > >
> > > I will have a look at this.    What have other linguists told you?
> > >
> > > Jim Comegys
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The following is what I believe to be decoded text from the Voynich
> > > Manuscript. Yes you read it right DECODED. It is four of the five
lines from
> > > F1r.P1. Note I have written the letter frequencies found underneath.
These
> > > came straight out when run manually through the decryption algorithm.
If I
> > > had not been right I would not have expected the frequency
distribution. It
> > > startled me how the patterns emerged.
> > >
> > > The text I have posted needs examination by a linguist to check which
> > > language would most match for the distribution. I know there is very
little
> > > text here but I plan to do more pages as and when time permits. Could
> > > someone PLEASE examine this text for any known words. It could be in
latin,
> > > french, english or rumanian for all I know, but these languages must
have
> > > distinct frequency patterns. The text and character frequencies
follow.
> > >
> > > fcjfq    qikl    lr    rttiqv    fzvz    dzvfp    ava!!vw    q    iyf
> > > jzvzob!
> > >
> > > hfp    amrhr    f!!p    ikiz    tjatiqv    fzhr    rrv    gvahr
tvahr
> > > udn!
> > >
> > > qyiqz    jzloi    mf    pikiqv    fzvr    fvavorp    avalw    vdrriqv
fs
> > >
> > > (THIS LINE OMITTED)
> > >
> > > diz    p    ajler    tvahiqv    prwhr    thmhrqv
> > >
> > >
> > > Letter frequencies (not in percentages just straight letter counts).
> > >
> > > v=20, r=17, i=14, f=12, z=11, a=11, q=11, h=9, p=7, t=7, j=5, l=5,
d=4, k=3,
> > > o=3, w=3, m=3, y=2, b=1, c=1, g=1, u=1, n=1, s=1, e=1
> > >
> > > P.S. The exclamation remarks remain as I did not have the character in
the
> > > alphabet I used but the decryption method can cope with this. You can
decode
> > > even with letters missing. Also can someone check the letter counts I
made
> > > as they were all manual. This would greatly affect the choice of
letter if
> > > the percentages are wrong. As I said earlier I will have more examples
with
> > > letter counts asap. I hope to get a programme written to automate the
task.
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > >
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