Re: VMs: Initial gallows

[steve ekwall <ekwall2@xxxxxxxx>]

Excellent reply - sir Nick ! :-)

As long as 11 others out there - "get.it" also, I can rest my weary 
head and go about my business here :-)

please let me now if you (& ALL) find a readable 'combination' for the 
vms, I think I will join GC and take a much needed sabatical from the 
vms now (whew!!) :-) 

best to you & yours (and 10/11 others out here) :-)
-=se=-
steve (what a MyStErIoUsLy GREAT BOOK - eh?) ekwall

THANKS




 Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:03:37 +0100
 From: Nick Pelling <incoming@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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 Subject: Re: VMs: Initial gallows
 
 Hi Steve,
 
 At 00:19 28/03/2004 -1000, Steve Ekwall wrote:
 >i guess i'm still ~stupid spooked steve~ (sigh).. i've tried every
 >which way from sunday to explain how the gallows ARE a _change.key_
 >function..
 
 Personally, I *do* get it - but let me explain a little more...
 
 You describe a cipher system which is pretty much exactly like a VMs cipher 
 system would need to be to reconcile (a) the dating evidence, (b) the 
 structural evidence, and (c) the statistical evidence. This alone is pretty 
 exciting, were it not for one awkward fact - having looked at the text 
 produced by the exact gallows fold/shift mechanism you describe, it still 
 does *not* look much like any language I've seen (and I've looked at a fair 
 few). Your ES told you that you couldn't read it, right? So why are you so 
 sure that we can?
 
 In fact, there seems to be a number of good reasons to suspect that there's 
 some kind of abbreviation / shorthand process going on as well - but 
 (AFAIK) nobody's tried to decipher a shorthand text written in a complex 
 cipher-system before. Hence we're probably several (jigsaw) pieces short of 
 Convergence. :-o
 
 So, the way it looks to me is this: that you're probably right in most of 
 the important ways, but the gallows shifting stuff is only part of the 
 story (in fact, possibly only 1/12th?) Have faith in the rest of us to work 
 out the remainder, and - with a bit of luck - we should all get there in 
 the end! :-)
 
 Cheers, .....Nick Pelling.....  
 
 
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