Looking atm into the cube found inserted into the Georgia Guidestones in 2014 which was later emoved and destroyed, but not before filming it in great detail - who wants a chip? It was claimed to have been made and placed to commemorate a wedding, bizzare indeed, as is the "destrucion of the cube" footage. All the pieces do fit the stated wedding scenario, but was that really its purpose?
The stones themselves are somehat shrouded in fog, and the first few rules do not seem to have the wellbeing of their recipients in mind. Does the cube expand the understanding of them and does it share concepts with other sources? Although the accompanying plaque describes the stones/rules as being guidestones to an age of reason (clearly -8.5 billion of the recipients), the 4 languages on the edges of the plaque wording are all from extinct civilizations - who is supposed to read the translations in these languages? The 8 main stone contemporary languages are also an odd representation of current world cultures, how do they represent everyone? There is also some astronomy thrown in, à la ancient standing stones.
The engravings on the cube are interesting and numerically the data seems to have tie ups with data from other sources.
Thoughts and calculations on the cube engravings to follow.
Bunny
Cube
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The cube presents the sticky conundrum, "can the present ever be marmalade, and if so, when?".
The cube in the Georgia Guidestones was found in 2014 inserted into a notch which had been cut into the stone and the numbers 20 and 14 visible, coinciding with the year it was seen. It was also removed and destroyed in the same year. there used to be much more online about this cube but there is now more limited information.
The cube is displayed flat below in 2 orientations of interest.
20
14 MM 16
8
JAM
14
8 MM 20
16
JAM
Working in a way similar to others these are the sum numbers I am interested in; no multiplications just "sum of". The red numbers are in practice the "next to" numbers additions, the blue numbers the opposite side additions, the highlighted number the sum of all numbers on the cube. In ascending order this gives 22, 24, 28, 30, 34, 36, 58.
30
22 14 34
8 MM 20 28 T=58
24 16 36
JAM
Along with numbers there are the letters/words/abbreviations JAM and MM.
Jam has a word like structure and MM an abbreviation like structure and will be considered from this point of view. Now for the sticky part of the conundrum, the jam. in classical Latin J and I are interchangeable, hence the word play in Alice in wonderland, "The rule is, jam tomorrow and jam yesterday—but never jam today". This refers the difference between the Latin iam and nunc. Iam is occasionally used in the present tense but never nunc for past or future, but iam is generally regarded as not immediately now. Given the script on the Guidestones referencing future expectations, jam is being defined here as future tense "now". Referencing the VM and SE's proclamation that the "time is now" it would not be the first finding of such a proclamation, as such SE could be using jam or nunc for his immediate "is now". As jam is occasionally found in Latin texts to mean "is" now, which tense do the numbers on the cube or their inferred sums support. The cube in situ showed 20 and 14 and the year it was placed there and removed was indeed in 2014.
The official explanation is that it was placed there by a Michael Massanelli to commemorate this marriage on August 16th, 2014 which took place at the Georgia Guidestones. This date accounts for all the numbers seen, 8,16,20,14. He also posted image of his marriage certificate, receipt for the cube and a wedding photo with a similar cube in the background. The initials of husband and wife are MM and JAM (Jennifer Anne Massanelli). He is also reported to have admitted being involved in the creation of the notch 5 years earlier. A simple and factual enough account to say case closed. But the choice of venue, a monument to post-apocalyptic times, is not your standard wedding venue choice. The 5 year earlier involvement could mean that the event was staged on the appropriate day. Most wedding announcements celebrate the wife to be in terms of their maiden name.
The cube was removed in the same year and smashed to pieces after showing each face in detail to the camera. Maybe the honeymoon didn't last long? Maybe it was just put there without permission, but the hole being carved out 5 years earlier and a wedding being held unnoticed with an official preceding and without permission seems unlikely. Assuming the official explanation is a long planned convenient fit what else could the cube mean?
First to tackle the orbit JAM 8 MM 20. On this orbit the letters are both right side up (as is 8 16 20 14 on that orbit of the cube):
JAM
Now at this time (future /past tense Latin now -iam, as opposed to present tense now -nunc)
8
MM
MM is a unit which may refer to thousand or million. in the UK it defines a billion (million x million). MM is also the number 2000 (MM was originally the Roman 2000=1000+1000). It is being defined here as both, completing different parts of the puzzle.
8 billion (MM).
20
Given the MM and 2014 date claim of the cube it seems appropriate that the 2nd millennium is a reasonable conclusion. MM is thus defining the unit of a billion and contemporary dates.
MM defined as date numerals. 2000+22, 2000+24. The date around 2023 is when the world population is predicted to reach 8 billion.
Now at this (future/near) time 8 billion 2nd millennium date -2023.
The other sums:
2000+28, 2000+30, 2000+34, 2000+36.
These calculation of the numbers on the cube happen to coincide with other apocalyptic type dates, i.e. ELE, 2029-2035 ,and given the nature of the script on the Guidestones this is not an unreasonable interpretation. Maybe for some reaching 8 billion is considered the point of human and climate change no return which is followed by severe action allowing for the considered time frame constraints, but as always, our plans and actions cannot fully define or contain what is outside our control.
the total of all the numbers is 58, no explanation that explains this number jumps out. But, looking again at the esoteric and apocalyptic nature of the monument, and how considered interests may hide intentions in plain sight and some say even mock the baffled, Daniel ch5 v8 is an interesting fit:
"Then all the king’s wise men came in, but they could not read the writing (on the wall) or tell the king what it meant."
An appropriate overview of the stones, the cube and "the time is now" VM. We can't decipher and we can't understand the esoteric writing -yet.
As an addition, for what it's worth, the cube is displayed flat below with the day/ month with the date it was destroyed 25th September 2014:
39
23 14 34
9 MM 20 29 T=68
34 25 45
JAM
The numbers do not follow the same pattern as the numbers on the cube, but do coincide with various dates that are "out there in the public" and are included here just for information. 2023 -again, the 8 billion level; 2029 -"Robots ‘will reach human intelligence by 2029" (Ray Kurzweil); 2034 -2034: A novel of the Next World War; 2039 -uncomfortable close pass of Asteroid 1999 AN10; 2045 -"life as we know it will end in 2045" (Ray Kurzweil -the Singularity, total merging of humans and AI); 2068 -Asteroid 'Apophis-99942' pass/hit?.
The cube presents the sticky conundrum, "can the present ever be marmalade, and if so, when?".
The cube in the Georgia Guidestones was found in 2014 inserted into a notch which had been cut into the stone and the numbers 20 and 14 visible, coinciding with the year it was seen. It was also removed and destroyed in the same year. there used to be much more online about this cube but there is now more limited information.
The cube is displayed flat below in 2 orientations of interest.
20
14 MM 16
8
JAM
14
8 MM 20
16
JAM
Working in a way similar to others these are the sum numbers I am interested in; no multiplications just "sum of". The red numbers are in practice the "next to" numbers additions, the blue numbers the opposite side additions, the highlighted number the sum of all numbers on the cube. In ascending order this gives 22, 24, 28, 30, 34, 36, 58.
30
22 14 34
8 MM 20 28 T=58
24 16 36
JAM
Along with numbers there are the letters/words/abbreviations JAM and MM.
Jam has a word like structure and MM an abbreviation like structure and will be considered from this point of view. Now for the sticky part of the conundrum, the jam. in classical Latin J and I are interchangeable, hence the word play in Alice in wonderland, "The rule is, jam tomorrow and jam yesterday—but never jam today". This refers the difference between the Latin iam and nunc. Iam is occasionally used in the present tense but never nunc for past or future, but iam is generally regarded as not immediately now. Given the script on the Guidestones referencing future expectations, jam is being defined here as future tense "now". Referencing the VM and SE's proclamation that the "time is now" it would not be the first finding of such a proclamation, as such SE could be using jam or nunc for his immediate "is now". As jam is occasionally found in Latin texts to mean "is" now, which tense do the numbers on the cube or their inferred sums support. The cube in situ showed 20 and 14 and the year it was placed there and removed was indeed in 2014.
The official explanation is that it was placed there by a Michael Massanelli to commemorate this marriage on August 16th, 2014 which took place at the Georgia Guidestones. This date accounts for all the numbers seen, 8,16,20,14. He also posted image of his marriage certificate, receipt for the cube and a wedding photo with a similar cube in the background. The initials of husband and wife are MM and JAM (Jennifer Anne Massanelli). He is also reported to have admitted being involved in the creation of the notch 5 years earlier. A simple and factual enough account to say case closed. But the choice of venue, a monument to post-apocalyptic times, is not your standard wedding venue choice. The 5 year earlier involvement could mean that the event was staged on the appropriate day. Most wedding announcements celebrate the wife to be in terms of their maiden name.
The cube was removed in the same year and smashed to pieces after showing each face in detail to the camera. Maybe the honeymoon didn't last long? Maybe it was just put there without permission, but the hole being carved out 5 years earlier and a wedding being held unnoticed with an official preceding and without permission seems unlikely. Assuming the official explanation is a long planned convenient fit what else could the cube mean?
First to tackle the orbit JAM 8 MM 20. On this orbit the letters are both right side up (as is 8 16 20 14 on that orbit of the cube):
JAM
Now at this time (future /past tense Latin now -iam, as opposed to present tense now -nunc)
8
MM
MM is a unit which may refer to thousand or million. in the UK it defines a billion (million x million). MM is also the number 2000 (MM was originally the Roman 2000=1000+1000). It is being defined here as both, completing different parts of the puzzle.
8 billion (MM).
20
Given the MM and 2014 date claim of the cube it seems appropriate that the 2nd millennium is a reasonable conclusion. MM is thus defining the unit of a billion and contemporary dates.
MM defined as date numerals. 2000+22, 2000+24. The date around 2023 is when the world population is predicted to reach 8 billion.
Now at this (future/near) time 8 billion 2nd millennium date -2023.
The other sums:
2000+28, 2000+30, 2000+34, 2000+36.
These calculation of the numbers on the cube happen to coincide with other apocalyptic type dates, i.e. ELE, 2029-2035 ,and given the nature of the script on the Guidestones this is not an unreasonable interpretation. Maybe for some reaching 8 billion is considered the point of human and climate change no return which is followed by severe action allowing for the considered time frame constraints, but as always, our plans and actions cannot fully define or contain what is outside our control.
the total of all the numbers is 58, no explanation that explains this number jumps out. But, looking again at the esoteric and apocalyptic nature of the monument, and how considered interests may hide intentions in plain sight and some say even mock the baffled, Daniel ch5 v8 is an interesting fit:
"Then all the king’s wise men came in, but they could not read the writing (on the wall) or tell the king what it meant."
An appropriate overview of the stones, the cube and "the time is now" VM. We can't decipher and we can't understand the esoteric writing -yet.
As an addition, for what it's worth, the cube is displayed flat below with the day/ month with the date it was destroyed 25th September 2014:
39
23 14 34
9 MM 20 29 T=68
34 25 45
JAM
The numbers do not follow the same pattern as the numbers on the cube, but do coincide with various dates that are "out there in the public" and are included here just for information. 2023 -again, the 8 billion level; 2029 -"Robots ‘will reach human intelligence by 2029" (Ray Kurzweil); 2034 -2034: A novel of the Next World War; 2039 -uncomfortable close pass of Asteroid 1999 AN10; 2045 -"life as we know it will end in 2045" (Ray Kurzweil -the Singularity, total merging of humans and AI); 2068 -Asteroid 'Apophis-99942' pass/hit?.