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Re: Why not Dee
Rene Zandbergen wrote:
> [...] according to the above, the book in hieroglyphics is clearly
> the book of St. Dunstan, according to the tradition of Kelly's discovery
> of it. If this was in Welsh, (also following tradition) Arthur may well
> have considered these to be hieroglyphics. And maybe Dee *could* read it
> (since Arthur is not making any statement about this).
But wasn't Welsh using Latin alphabet? Dee had books in Greek and Hebrew
which would certainly appear more "curious" to a boy who is just
to read. I think, however, that the key to this recollection of Arthur
Dee (via Browne) is the usage of the word "hieroglyphics". I feel
(but am not sure) it would not be used for a script-like (VMS) alphabet.
It certainly better fits John Dee's description of another of his books:
"the boke called Angelicum Opus, all in pictures of the work from
the beginning to the end" which was burnt along with other alchemical
books on Dec. 12th  when Kelley overthrew a lamp. And indeed
"his father bestowed much time upon" in order to make more "silver
for little Arthur to play :-)
> The MS on which the statement was based is clearly identified in
> the Yale catalogue entry:
> > (we thank A. G. Watson for confirming this identification through a
> > comparison of the Arabic numerals in the Beinecke manuscript with
> > those of John Dee in Oxford, Bodleian Library Ashmole 1790, f. 9v,
> > and Ashmole 487)
> Right now I cannot access Rafal's page, so I cannot check if this is
> what he used....
I used the 1583 book catalog page reproduced in Yates's _Theatre of
the World_ which is British Library: Harley 1879. Those used by Watson
are: "Prefatio Latina in actionem" bound with Ashmole's papers on Dee
(and I always wondered why he indicated this particular page, which is
a verso page so presumably does not have foliation) and the
_Ephemerides_ containing the diary edited by Halliwell.
I am sure Clay Holden (if he listens) could give more authoritative
judgement of Dee's 8's from his extensive study of Dee's MSS.
I could not find any reproduction of Kelley's handwritten numbers -
except one very poor sample with a 7 which looks much more like
VMS foliation 7's. If VMS is a "practical joke", then of all people
Kelley would be the one capable of producing it (assuming that
all of his visions were fake - which is a matter of belief; but even
if we assume he really contacted angelic beings, they may have
communicated another language to him - there were two Enochian
languages before, so why not the third?).