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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 05:18:26 -0000
From: steve <ekwall2@xxxxxxxx>
To: ekwall2@xxxxxxx
Subject: Fw: VMS ~folding KEY 101~ CC


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Ekwall <ekwall2@xxxxxxxx>
To: rene@xxxxxxxxxx <rene@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: jim@xxxxxxx <jim@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, November 23, 2000 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: VMS ~folding KEY 101~


>
> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 21:44:17 +0100
> From: Rene Zandbergen <Zandbergen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: rene@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: ekwall2@xxxxxxxx
> Cc: jim@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: VMS ~folding KEY 101~
> 
> Hi!
> 
> you wrote:
> 
> >  No, actually I have a personal list here of any address I could FIND
> > on the net of those that have :voynich *.*: 
> 
> One of these is voynich@xxxxxxxx, and that is the mailing list. Feel
> free to send your Voynich-related mail there and we'll all get it.
><snip>......... most..........<snip>.....
> Best wishes, Rene
> 
> 
>------------------------------
>Hi Rene, (smiles)
>
>  Thanks for the reply, YOURS was the most curious as "ES" this
>hopefully (once in a life time encounter) "excitant ~spirit~" showed
>me YOUR home page 1st!, then OFF to another page And more so - on & 
>on & on.... TO THIS DATE, I
>still haven't found what I call the *YES* I can ~see~ it here (page 1)
>and the *YES* I can ~see~ it here page 2 (someones page that has just
>a paragraph (snip) of VMS that ES said - SEE how ~simple it IS?~ to
>read...  
> 

>--=se=->
The 1st had an Upside? sunflower (female ovary) The "buldge of the
seeds ~facing downwardly~". IT WAS The left UPPER
SIDE of THAT #1 page for sure (i don't know about the Right side, as I
haven't seen it since, THE IMPORTANT THING is the little human figure 
sticking its body out (left side of the lower sunflower (ovary) and
"waving, hello world" here I come!. THIS "ES" said was the "LIFE.STAR
emerging" (is anyone familar with this page?)

The 2nd was someones home page (one my initial mailing list) see
archives?, that have just one graphic (paragraph of the ~script~) in
these few lines, I was shown - the C_C_C cuttings, the 8am\\ splice
BACK and the c_C ~folding~ Key ..... (does anyone have just a page
with
only one random parapragh of VMS (graphically) inserted? (abour 3/4
of the way down the page? I search in 
ascii only (usually) and was told by ES that this was #2 (and simple) 
(so I HAD to "view it" to see what ES was talking about - literally) 

lastly... (after many conformation pages of ":see - see - understand? 
and me saying yes, YES - I get IT already, leave me alone already:"

I was ~left~ to study the wealth of graphics at the YALE library.. 
the supposed holder of the original book (2-3 hours of clicking - well
of course and YES and Yes & yes.. "ES" had long departed.

Again, I had never heard of or even seen ANYTHING related to the VMS
PRIOR to this... additionally I 'm sure I was chosen for reason beyond
my academic factors.... So as another clue - IF i can decode it, I
would ASSUME it is NOT WRITTEN IN ENGLISH .. Additionally The pictures
on the pages seem to relate to the TEXT of THAT page - LESS - the
folding, (does the VMS use like a 'playboy' Center FOLDING type of
thing? ES finally said "I
will not be able to READ IT" only DECODE IT! ... That was more
shocking to my intellect
then the fact I was given a KEY to the VMS.. How this key FITS I still
haven't a CLUE (but will let you know if I stumble on something more).
<-=se=-<

>I reclused to not contaminate (my thoughts) since October release any
>"ES 
>feeling that I had", but tried only to faithfully ~describe~ in ASCII
>and (minimal) graphic's capabilites I have here ... <p>
>
>oddly, "ES" left me in the wonderland of the archives @ yale
>univeristy to sya just YES Yes yes to about Every Picture I could
>click on... THIS time consuming ~delightful~ adventure - left me 
>~cursed~ to tell all to those I don't even know (the world). 
>
>I must once again ~applaud~ your responce to my ~wierd~ endeavor to
>tackle something (I KNOW I HAVEN'T A CLUE as to WHAT IT IS ABOUT)..
>
>YOU _ALL_ are w_a_Y over my head here academically, ? and I have
>stated on myhome page that I have NEVER even known nor heard of this
>odd ~situation~ SCRIPT!!  (AND I was TOLD (per ES) .. when I could
>"DECODE TI" (err IT) that I ~personally~ would _NOT_ beable t READ IT
>!!
>
>That is a ~heavy.burden~ for ~continue(ing)~ in my eyes for a prize! 
>
>that is .. to not know the GOAL, NOT know the language... but _clues_ 
>of which I'm only one of 12 !!!   ARGgGGgggGgggg  (this is nutty 2me!)
>
>was I chosen (for my LACK of linguistic skills AND my perpitual curse
>to invent (transpose) the simple(ist) of text???  ARGGgggggggg
>
>"ES" left me alone @ the YALE archive that night, and by the time I
>might have even had a question or two (which NOW I have THOUSANDS!),
>made MYESLF question My Own sanity.... ARggGgggggg
>
>I will _NOT_ attempt to conjure up "ES" (personally I don't THINK that
>is possible in the 1st _nor less the 2nd place_) .. but IF "ES" is to
>REcontact ME ( be assured ), I will let ALL KNOW.
>
>Thank you for your Kind Words of "my pages ~being ORIGINAL~"  ha.haa
>Frankly MY DEAR, I would have had THAT page -=Committed=- myself!!
>
>_The Truth_ they say is said, _IS_ stranger than fiction?
>
>
>With your ~Blessing~ I will READD your name to this meager list I have
>just started to keep you advised... I intend (and hopefully) won't be
>a bother... for there seems to be at least 11 others out there (per
>ES) 
>
>
>AGAIN, YOUR PAGE _was_ number #1 that "ES" showed me then (this page,
>then THAT page, then This... Then THAT, then here, then There ARgGggg 
>
>I'm ~feeling~ you too may be one of the 12? 
>
>if _not_ have a good Thanksgiving anyway
>Best to you and yours there...
>Thanks for your Reply.
>
>-=se=-
>steve (THIS _IS_ Weird to me too!) ekwall
>
>p.s. no I don't use a spell checker (can't make one work with UNIX -
>pine -) - but I know I made a few mistakes (above) these were LEFT
>intentinally ~as they~ the feeling(s) - flowed from my finger tips
>etc..
>
>p.s.s.  feel free to send this, archive this, or tell the world this.
>        "I" hold back _NO_ secrets 
>         known to me...  
>         (never have, never WILL !!)
>
>
>Take care 
>-=se=-
>
>p.s.s.s. I have just started to LOOK at what's available on search
>engines on the web ... and even I myself think "How the HELL does THIS
>FOLDING have anything do do with THAT !"  Looks lame to me (myself) I
>will continue to try and put 2 + 2 together...
>
>HOW about just (an _easy_) / ~Nice Game of CHESS?~  (sigh)
>

Best to you & yours
-=se=-