The Bible codes nonsense - Jardim's message

[Mark Perakh <perakh@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

It is unfortunate that the nonsense about the so-called Bible code found its way
into this list.  The paper by Witztum, Rips and Rosenberg, mentioned by Jardim,
was decisively repudiated by the entire community of mathematicians as a result
of a faulty procedure.  A paper by McKay, Kalai, Bar-Hillel, and Bar-Natan was
published in Stat. Science showing the complete lack of any substantiation in
the claim about codes. However tolerant the Voynich group is to anything the
list members wish to discuss, this is just too much.  If Mr. Jardim wants to
talk about the so-called codes, there are more than enough of other forums for
that drivel, and our list should not be littered by such extraneous and
ridiculous stuff.  Of course, if he has any ideas regarding VMs, whatever they
may be, I am sure he will be quite welcome to offer them. Cheers, Ladies and
Gentlemen!  Mark

Osmar Jardim wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I have been lurking to this list for the last 12 months, with some ideas in
> mind, that are not yet ripe to be presented, which I will do in a near
> future, I guess.
>
> What brings me out of my foxhole is the existance of secret codes in the
> Bible, subject that might as well been discussed here.
>
> An algorith was developed at U.R.C.I. - UniversitИ Rose-Croix
> Internationale, in France, to test these secret codes. Ouram Egiturre wrote
> an article, published in Portuguese in "O PantАculo", year VII, number 7,
> 1999 (more information rosacruz@xxxxxxxxxxxx).
>
> The idea of such secret codes are not new. Isaac Newton was sure that there
> were secret codes in the Bible.
> In 1989, Doron Witzum, Eliyahu Rips and Yoav Rosenberg contributed with the
> article "Hamidah Hanossaf"( The Continuous Dimension) and 1993 they gave us
> Equidistant Letter Sequencences in The Book of Genesis, Statistical Science,
> vol. 9, number 3, aug 1993.
>
> The article of Ouram Egiturre is interesting for my personnal Rosicrucian
> and Martinist studies. Perhaps the method he used has been used by the
> Scholars in their tentatives of reading VMS.
>
> Now, back to my lurking mode.
>
> Peace.
>
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>
>  > > You must admit that character combinations at the very start of page
> one
>  > > that don't appear elsewhere sound suspiciously like a key sequence. :-/
>  >
>  >Well, think of the Bible: b'reshith barah Elohim...
>  >
>  >How often does the character combination "b'reshith..." appear elsewhere
>  >in the Bible? I haven't checked, but here is my guess: zero times. And the
>  >Bible is a lot longer than the VMS. So...
>
>  .....the Bible must be in code too. :-)
>
>  -=se=-> * C O O L * !!! Now we're "talking" I've heard the Bible IS
> in code if you have the Original Jewish Script (only) ... that is
> every 15 or 250th word etc... points to names both Past and Future..
> kind of like a 3D (4d+ ??) coding... appearently HITLER is in there
> too!!
>
> Maybe the TRUTH is ~weirder~ than fiction!
>
> EK = ES?  es? -> se/"EKwall"