Folded Stroke encoding?

[steve ekwall <ekwall2@xxxxxxxx>]

you wrote:
 

 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:55:36 -0000
 From: Jacques Guy <jguy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 To: voynich@xxxxxxxx
 Subject: Re: Stroke encoding?
 
 28/02/02 03:12:46, Rene Zandbergen <r_zandbergen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 
 >Dear all,
 >
 >of course, the VMs could also be stroke-encoded
 >Arabic, or even more likely [ :-) ] : stroke-encoded
 >cuneiform....
 
 But if it was stroke-encoded cuneiform... we'd have only
 let me think, --,  | , <, /, \... very few "letters".
 
 Still, a nice idea too. And again, a very secure cipher.
 
 --------------------------->se=->

simple "cuneiform" but round or FOLD the edges... AND NO "letters" 
exposed!!! simple..

*YES* EXACTLY !!! a n d ...... 

Add "C's" to move back ONE. (key board)
    "C_C's" to hike shift TWO. (key board)
    "C_&c_C's (backward "c" over C_C's_ for moving back THREE, 
        (key board) or the TTT boards (below) 
Else/AND/or "gallows" points to KEY BOARD your presently ON !
 
 and you have an even "MORE secure cipher" _Master KEY_ of VMS !!
 
SIMPLE!  see it??

IT's OLD, but the WHOLE D*MN THING (excuse my language) easily FOLDS! 
The C's CC's CCC's are just pointers from where you are in the/a KEY!

as in 3 3 9 (folded - SIMPLE) 4 english KEYS:


A B C     J K L    S T U    1 2 3
D E F     M N O    V W X    4 5 6
G H I     P Q R    Y Z 0    7 8 9 

--------------------------------- FOLDED but by 1/3'rds TTT Mirrored 

1 2 3     U T S    L K J    C B A 
6 5 4     X W V    O N M    F E D 
9 8 7     0 Z Y    R Q P    I H G 


(the above is [3x3(9)] x 4 (keys) or "1/2" master key with the 
  mirror below - other "1/2" of master key, the layout is simple Put
   into the FOLDING of the Gallows sequence) for vms.

The "ES FOLDED Master KEY" is (simply diagonal) "/" as in:
       /
  3 1 4
  8 / 5 
  7 2 6
 /             Folded key (1 key) 1(9), or one of 9 x 4 x 2 (mirrored) 


one doesn't need the KEY(s) - just its layout sequence! 
MIRROR could be "literal" or "reversed?" or ?????? cross-invereted :-( 

I'll leave it up to you lingustic experts as to what it say etc..

*Fletter = Folded letter (caps apply)

SO, your finger is on a LETTER(X.KEY) and the Fletter* is preceded by
"c,cc or ccc" so you back up 1,2,3 etc... OR ....
If IT's Gallowed then - hike shift - flip your folded MASTER key and
continue.. to new KEY (pointed out by the gallow shape)..

What "language it's in" I haven't a clue!!! but IT FOLDs c cc ccc 
with the GALLOWS pointing it to you (if your on the same KEY etc)!
as you READ it or WRITE IT - actually 2 times easier to write!


hope this helps
-=se=-
steve (still folding - sorry :-( ekwall  <-----------

*Fletter = folded letter pointer

BTW: (in english)

so A is either #1 above _OR_ A is (also/either) #48 above or 
even just an A or mirrored a (A = bad example)? 

every character has at least "3 pointers" (sigh) #1, #48, or A
(mirror) as in "[cc(eva t)]" where "A" is first letter in the language
one would _throw_ at it etc...

ALL characters and ALL NUMBERS can be FOLDED at least TWICE if not by
3 times! (english only above)... 72 code spots for 36 characters
then x 2 .. seems pretty ~infinitily~ cross-combinated to me ?? :-)

flip flifp flip - fold folfd fold - 

But, really not hard!
simple as TIC TAC TOE :-) x 9 !! 
(yea yea - I do like chess games)

Just keep a ~finger~ on where you are at at the time - else start over
with eva T or  "???" back up a few characters to SEE where you are ? 
H*LL I don't know still working on it here!!! 8am??


this (above) code needs lots and lot's of c,cc,ccc's to work it work! 
the other 1/2 _is_ the gallows and the "entire alpha-numeric languge"
is *POOF* GONE from viewers/eye !

cool
=eh? :-))

1/2 then 1/2 again! does that fit anyone entropy there?

The above needs only 9 more "stand alone" LETTERS to survive the
Folding and I can only see 8 a m (3), picnic table (4) but 1/2 is way
good as they need an opposite or MIRROR shape as "e" for 1/2 an 8 (5),
g or 4
for (1or2) more and I'm almost there? "IS The WHOLE thing FOLDED!"

ps - I don't have a clue on the PLANT Pictures etc.. :-(( sorry ))-: