Re: Gallows G characters

[steve ekwall <ekwall2@xxxxxxxx>]

hi GC and ALL :-) 

EveryLETTER is covered IF language has 26 letters and 10 numbers OR
LESS - I would like to see CENTER squares OPEN (per ES) as in 
23/9 alphanumeric and or no "0" (v,y,w?) whatever...


I might have over simplyfied the Tic.Tac.Toe (TTT) folding in my last
e.mail here, (sorry) but, I wrote:

a b c  j k l  s t u  1 2 3
d e f  m n o  v w x  4 5 6
g h i  p q r  y z 0  7 8 9
--------------------------- <-FOLDED english
1 2 3  u t s  j k l  a b c
4 5 6  x w v  o n m  f e d
7 8 9  0 z y  r q p  i h g


any language (inserted above) ALSO needs to be "ES KEY FOLDED"


I didn't want to confuse anyone "(but it IS just the ES/FOLD!)"
sorry all :-/ this is simple yet hard if you don't see the FOLDing!

If one takes the above into FOLDED CODING the simple Tic.Tac.Toe or
TTT board, AND see's it's _mirror_ letter per the  ES FOLDing101..

Using "#'s" as non mirrored, AND "@'s" as mirrored of the same LETTER.

# # #  # # #  # # # 
# # #  # # #  # # #  <---3 x 3 Blocks
# # #  # # #  # # # 

# # #         @ @ @ 
# # #         @ @ @ 
# # #         @ @ @ 

@ @ @  @ @ @  @ @ @ 
@ @ @  @ @ @  @ @ @
@ @ @  @ @ @  @ @ @ 

ALL english letters A-Z and 0-9 are in "#'s"
ALL english letters A-Z and 0-9 are in "@'s" (mirrored positioning)

(the VMS Folded101 MASTER key TEMPLATE (yea! etc..)

each "#" or "@" is the same letter (mirrored in it's POSITION!) 

EACH 3 x 3 block of "#s"\
                         > equals an ES "KEY" - 9 total blocks?
EACH 3 x 3 block of "@s"/      (less Center per each / per ES)


SO stick in the "language of your choice" and DECODE away etc..

c's cc's & ccc's are still the same" 

C_*gallow_C's "NOT INCLUDED" here, they say (ROTATE MASTER KEY) or
equals position of letter on SAME (little KEY block) where you are on
MASTER KEY etc..

1 c = back up one key 
2 cc = back up two keys
3 ccc = back up three keys (eva s_h* ~almost~?) 

s_h* are two c's with another on it's back - upper c going
backwards etc... no eva # for this (sigh)

another type of ccc:

[NOTE C_C c <--- last c NOT connected & is on that present KEY board
                                                             (block) 

finally, "o" is "NAIL IT!" (that's "THE letter") where you ARE at!

as in "o(eva t)" is the SECOND "1" postion of ANY of the Above KEYS
you are in/on at the time of the "o" encountered.  eva t is the START
though of any folding KEYs, ALL KEYS in the Folding "master key" work
(fold) the same way:
    /
 314     <-- note (eva t) = 1 here FOLDED!
 895
 726 
/

MASTER key is folded also the same way....
& per the gallows and c cc ccc'ing WITHIN the 3x3 KEY of them. 


PS I write these e.mails in PINE (ascii) I picked up one of mine last
week on a friends "WinDOZE" systems.. and the lines (characters) were
ALL out of wack (*)... I hope someone can see the 3 x 3 (9) squares
intended above.. stupid MicroSUCKs WinDOZE (arrrggggggGGGgg) ha.haaa

so this is not a TTT board is you use MS winDOZE??

Tic.Tac.Toe
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___|__|___
   |  |
   |  | 


~rats~ this will make it even harder to explain! :-(


hope that helps
Best to you & yours
-=se=-
steve (still folding TTT's) ekwall
 

PS I don't know about 8am yet, the folding 8 seems to say MIDDLE, 
the a = lower left of any "flipped key?", the M = return? or
NEW paragragh here???  but doesn't all fit yet.. :-/
"8am" was bad from the get go! but all FITs the FOLDing! :-)
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 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 08:39:02 -0600
 From: GC <glenclaston@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 To: "Voynich@Rand. Org" <voynich@xxxxxxxx>
 Subject: Gallows G characters
 
 One of the problems I’m having in attempting to
 order alphabets by probable word is that different
 characters keep showing up in the same columns, as
 if they’re interchangeable.  I've been examining
 each character by form and testing its behavior in
 an effort to gain some set of rules for their use.
 While there should be no attempt to arbitrarily
 reduce the alphabet down to character forms, there
 are many points that suggest there aren't nearly
 as many characters as first appear to the eye.
 The G gallows in its two form is a fine example of
 this problem.
 
 The standard gallows exists in two forms, a double
 loop and a single loop.  The G gallows exists in
 two forms, the double loop and the single loop.
 The gallows/picnic therefore exists in four forms,
 one for each of the above.  The standard gallows
 forms exhibit roughly the same behavior, as does
 the four forms of the gallows/picnic.  The G
 gallows form is an odd duck, and appears to me to
 be a homophone of the standard gallows set.  I’d
 really hate to have to incorporate this behavior
 into a stroke dependent structure, but in cipher I
 can explain it as a homophonic replacement scheme
 in the system.  There may be other explanations of
 course which might be brought to light by better
 minds.
 
 In my sample of 35,003 characters, folios
 001r-052v, the G form occurs 424 times,
 representing about 1.2% of the total characters.
 Out of these 424 occurrences, it appears 105 times
 as the line initial character, meaning 24.76% of
 the time it is used to begin a line.  The most
 interesting thing is that 345 times out of these
 424 characters, it occurs ONLY in the first line
 of a paragraph.  This is 81.36% of the time this
 character form occurs in the first line of a
 paragraph.  Now that takes some explaining!
 
 There are two options that come to mind for why it
 might appear in the body of the paragraph only 1
 in five times.  They may indicate a change in the
 system, or there may have simply been room to
 write a G form instead of a gallows.  (I prefer
 the former.)
 
 Whatever theory that finally works has to take
 this into account and explain it.  I’m betting
 these are homophones of regular gallows
 characters, and their use follows some rule as yet
 to be explained.
 
 GC