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VMs: RE: VMS Quires
I've uploaded a web-booklet comparing Rene's quire mark records
and my re-shuffling based on 'language', context, and quire size.
All A language Herbal together (3 quires)
All B language Herbal together
All A language Pharma together
B language Bio together (except obvious center of quire restored)
Stars & Cosmos & Oddities sorted roughly to make quire sizes 16
pages.
Zodiacs remain odd-length compared to remainder ( for now 8-) )
I don't know if it proves anything -- but for the most part it
seems as though the quires could fit into standard 16 page quires...
www.morewood.net/vmsquires.html
John.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-voynich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-voynich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of GC
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:47 PM
To: Voynich Ms. mailing list
Subject: VMs: RE: VMS Quires
Thanks Jorge!
This is very helpful.
GC
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-voynich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-voynich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jorge Stolfi
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 11:15 AM
> To: Voynich Ms. mailing list
> Cc: voynich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: VMs: Re: VMS Quires
>
>
>
> [ New version, with definitions of "page", "panel", etc. and
> alternative diagrams for f73/f74. ]
>
> > At one time there was a page on the net
> delineating the Voynich
> > quires. I don't remember if this was on Jim
> Reed's site or Jim
> > Gillogly's, but I am in desperate need of a copy
> of that page at
> > present. Does anyone have a mirror of this? Thanks.
>
> Rene Zandbergen prepared a chart based on Jim Reeds's notes,
> which can be be found in his mirror site:
>
>
> http://www.dcc.unicamp.br/~stolfi/voynich/mirror/reeds/d
> ocs/quires.txt
>
> Below find my version of Rene's chart, modified and
> complemented with
> information from the list, page images, and other
> sources. There may
> be some differences of substance relative to Rene's
> chart, especially
> with regard to the nesting of the pages that were cut away.
>
> Be sure to use a fixed-width font, and disable any automatic
> line wrapping.
>
> All the best,
>
> --stolfi
>
> ========================================================
> ==============
> Last edited on 2002-07-22 13:11:22 by stolfi
>
> This chart shows how the sheets nest to form the quires
> of the VMS.
>
> The original chart was prepared on Feb 1996 by Rene Zandbergen,
> based on notes by Jim Reeds. This is a slightly extended and
> modified version by J. Stolfi.
>
> A "bifolio" (non-standard name) is a physical sheet of
> vellum, counted
> before the binding and folding.
>
> A "folio" is leaf of the book, i.e. each part of a
> bifolio delimited
> by the binding fold. Thus a bifolio usually has two
> folios. Each folio
> has two sides, recto (front, "r") and verso (back,
> "v"), assigned in
> normal reading order, ignoring fold-outs.
>
> A "panel" is each part of one side of a folio that is
> delimited by
> folds (binding or otherwise). Thus a folio with two
> vertical folds,
> besides the binding, will have six panels (three on
> each side). Panels
> are numbered r1,r2,r3... and v1,v2,v3..., starting from the ones
> nearest to the binding gutter (so v1 and r1 are
> opposite to each other
> across the vellum). The big fold-out (f85+f86) is a bit
> special; see
> the diagram.
>
> A "page" is a logical page of the document, i.e. one or
> more adjacent
> panels that contain an indivisible combination of text
> and/or figures.
> By convention, the number of a page is that of its
> lowest-numbered
> panel. For example, the Pisces diagram is page f70v2, comprising
> panels f70v3 (left, half-width) and f70v2 (right).
>
> Legend:
>
> --+ free edge of vellum
>
> --|-- fold that defines a page boundary
>
> --+-- fold that does not define a page boundary
>
> ! gutter fold, bound (letter indicates language)
>
> | gutter fold, unbound
>
> -- B2 -- handwriting, according to Currier
>
> -- 054 -- folio number (= f54r + f54v)
>
> -- 102.2 -- folio and panel number in fold-outs (=
> f102r2 + f102v2)
>
> v
> ------- recto/verso labeling, when non-obvious
> r
>
> ·· (109) ·· conjectured lost folio
>
> --(089.3)-- fold-out panel that is logically part of
> adjacent page
>
> [zodiac] notes, e.g. exceptions to the general
> contents of quire
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> --------------
> [QUIRE 1=A] [I in the Beinecke catalog]
> 4 sheets, 8 folios, 16 pages, 16 panels.
> Amost all 'herbal'.
>
> /-------------- A1 --- 001 -----+ [f1r: text]
> ! /------------ A1 --- 002 -----+
> ! ! /---------- A1 --- 003 -----+
> ! ! ! /-------- A1 --- 004 -----+
> ! ! ! !
> A A A A
> ! ! ! !
> ! ! ! \-------- A1 --- 005 -----+
> ! ! \---------- A1 --- 006 -----+
> ! \------------ A1 --- 006 -----+
> \-------------- A1 --- 008 -----+
>
> [QUIRE 2=B] [II in the Beinecke catalog]
> 4 sheets, 7 folios, 14 pages, 14 panels (+missing).
> All 'herbal'.
>
> /-------------- A1 --- 009 -----+
> ! /------------ A1 --- 010 -----+
> ! ! /---------- A1 --- 011 -----+
> ! ! ! /--...... ? .. (012).....
> ! ! ! !
> A A A A
> ! ! ! !
> ! ! ! \-------- A1 --- 013 -----+
> ! ! \---------- A1 --- 014 -----+
> ! \------------ A1 --- 015 -----+
> \-------------- A1 --- 016 -----+
>
> [QUIRE 3=C] [III in the Beinecke catalog]
> 4 sheets, 8 folios, 16 pages, 16 panels.
> All 'herbal'.
>
> /-------------- A1 --- 017 -----+
> ! /------------ A1 --- 018 -----+
> ! ! /---------- A1 --- 019 -----+
> ! ! ! /-------- A1 --- 020 -----+
> ! ! ! !
> A A A A
> ! ! ! !
> ! ! ! \-------- A1 --- 021 -----+
> ! ! \---------- A1 --- 022 -----+
> ! \------------ A1 --- 023 -----+
> \-------------- A1 --- 024 -----+
>
> [QUIRE 4=D] [IV in the Beinecke catalog]
> 4 sheets, 8 folios, 16 pages, 16 panels
> All 'herbal'.
>
> /-------------- A1 --- 025 -----+
> ! /------------ B2 --- 026 -----+
> ! ! /---------- A1 --- 027 -----+
> ! ! ! /-------- A1 --- 028 -----+
> ! ! ! !
> A B A A
> ! ! ! !
> ! ! ! \-------- A1 --- 029 -----+
> ! ! \---------- A1 --- 030 -----+
> ! \------------ B2 --- 031 -----+
> \-------------- A1 --- 032 -----+
>
> [QUIRE 5=E] [V in the Beinecke catalog]
> 4 sheets, 8 folios, 16 pages, 16 panels.
> All 'herbal'.
>
> /-------------- B2 --- 033 -----+
> ! /------------ B2 --- 034 -----+
> ! ! /---------- A1 --- 035 -----+
> ! ! ! /-------- A1 --- 036 -----+
> ! ! ! !
> B B A A
> ! ! ! !
> ! ! ! \-------- A1 --- 037 -----+
> ! ! \---------- A1 --- 038 -----+
> ! \------------ B2 --- 039 -----+
> \-------------- B2 --- 040 -----+
>
> [QUIRE 6=F] [VI in the Beinecke catalog]
> 4 sheets, 8 folios, 16 pages, 16 panels.
> All 'herbal'.
>
> /-------------- B2 --- 041 -----+
> ! /------------ A1 --- 042 -----+
> ! ! /---------- B2 --- 043 -----+
> ! ! ! /-------- A1 --- 044 -----+
> ! ! ! !
> B A B A
> ! ! ! !
> ! ! ! \-------- A1 --- 045 -----+
> ! ! \---------- B2 --- 046 -----+
> ! \------------ A1 --- 047 -----+
> \-------------- B2 --- 048 -----+
>
> [QUIRE 7=G] [VII in the Beinecke catalog]
> 4 sheets, 8 folios, 16 pages, 16 panels.
> Almost all 'herbal'.
>
> /-------------- A1 --- 049 -----+ [f49v: text]
> ! /------------ B2 --- 050 -----+
> ! ! /---------- A1 --- 051 -----+
> ! ! ! /-------- A1 --- 052 -----+
> ! ! ! !
> A B A A
> ! ! ! !
> ! ! ! \-------- A1 --- 053 -----+
> ! ! \---------- A1 --- 054 -----+
> ! \------------ B2 --- 055 -----+
> \-------------- A1 --- 056 -----+
>
> [QUIRE 8=H] [VIII in the Beinecke catalog]
>
> 2 sheets, 4 folios, 8 pages, 8 panels (+missing).
> Mixed contents.
>
> /---------------- B2 --- 057 -----+ [f57r
> 'herbal B', f57v 'cosmo']
> ! /-------------- A? --- 058 -----+ ['stars']
> ! ! /------······ ? ··· (059) ····
> ! ! ! /----······ ? ··· (060) ····
> ! ! ! ! /--······ ? ··· (061) ····
> ! ! ! ! !
> B A ! ! !
> ! ! ! ! !
> ! ! ! ! \--······ ? ··· (062) ····
> ! ! ! \----······ ? ··· (063) ····
> ! ! \------······ ? ··· (064) ····
> ! \-------------- ? ---- 065 -----+ [text]
> \---------------- B? --- 066 -----+ ['herbal']
>
> [QUIRE 9=I] [IX in the Beinecke catalog]
> 1 sheet, 2 folios, 10 pages, 12 panels.
> All 'astro/cosmo'.
>
> /-------- ? ---- 067.1 ---|--- 067.2 ---+
> !
> !
> !
> \-------- ? ---- 068.1 ---|--- 068.2
> ---|--- 068.3 ---+-(068.4)-+
>
> [QUIRE 10=J] [X in the Beinecke catalog]
> 1 sheet, 2 folios, 6 pages, 8 panels.
> Mostly 'astro/cosmo', start of 'zodiac'.
>
> /-------- ? ---- 069 -----+ ['astro']
> !
> !
> ! ['astro'] [f70r3+2: 'astro']
> \-------- ? ---- 070.1 ---|--- 070.2
> ---+-(070.3)-+
> [Aries 1] [f70v3+2: Pisces]
>
> [QUIRE 11=K] [XI in the Beinecke catalog]
> 1 sheet, 2 folios, 8 pages, 8 panels.
> All 'zodiac'.
>
> [Aries 2]
> /-------- ? ---- 071 -----+
> ! [Taurus 1]
> !
> ! [Taurus 2] [Gemini]
> [Cancer]
> \-------- ? ---- 072.1 ---|--- 072.2
> ---|--- 072.3 ---+
> [Libra] [Virgo] [Leo]
>
> [QUIRE 12=L] [XII in the Beinecke catalog]
> 1 sheet, 1 folio, 2 pages, 2 panels (+missing).
> All 'zodiac'.
>
> [ Details of binding not observed very carefully. The
> diagram below
> follows the description given in the Beinecke
> catalog: it assumes
> that f74 is the missing partner of f73, and that the
> bistub between
> them was added later, to reinforce the binding.
>
> [Scorpio]
> /---------- ? ---- 073 -----+
> ! [Sagittarius]
> !
> ! /--······ ? ··· (???) ····
> ! !
> ! !
> ! \--······ ? ··· (???) ····
> !
> !
> \-········· ? ··· (074) ····
>
> Rene proposed an alternative theory: f73 had no
> partner, and the
> bistub is what is left of two originally conjugate
> folios, one of
> them being the missing f74.
>
> [Scorpio]
> /---------- ? ---- 073 -----+
> ! [Sagittarius]
> !
> \-········· ? ··· (???) ····
>
>
> /----······ ? ··· (???) ····
> !
> !
> \----······ ? ··· (074) ····
>
> Both alternatives have their problems... ]
>
> [Scorpio]
> /---------- ? ---- 073 -----+
> ! [Sagittarius]
> !
> ! /--······ ? ··· (???) ····
> ! !
> ! !
> ! \--······ ? ··· (???) ····
> !
> !
> \-········· ? ··· (074) ····
>
> [QUIRE 13=M] [XIII in the Beinecke catalog]
> 5 sheets, 10 folios, 20 pages, 20 panels.
> All 'biological'.
>
> /---------------- B2 --- 075 -----+
> ! /-------------- B2 --- 076 -----+
> ! ! /------------ B2 --- 077 -----+
> ! ! ! /---------- B2 --- 078 -----+
> ! ! ! ! /-------- B2 --- 079 -----+
> ! ! ! ! !
> B B B B B
> ! ! ! ! !
> ! ! ! ! \-------- B2 --- 080 -----+
> ! ! ! \---------- B2 --- 081 -----+
> ! ! \------------ B2 --- 082 -----+
> ! \-------------- B2 --- 083 -----+
> \---------------- B2 --- 084 -----+
>
> [QUIRE 14=N] [XIV in the Beinecke catalog]
> 1 sheet, 4 folios (for numbering purposes), 7 pages, 12 panels.
> Mixed contents, including the 12-panel fold-out.
>
> r
> /--------------- B3 --- 085.1 ---+ [f85r1: text]
> ! v
> ! v
> ! /---------- B? --- 085.2 ---+ [f85r2: 'cosmo']
> ! | r
> B B
> ! | v
> ! \---------- B? --- 086.4 ---|--- 086.6 ---+
> [f86v4: 'cosmo', f86v6: text]
> ! r
> ! r
> \--------------- B3 --- 086.3 ---|--- 086.5 ---+
> [f86v3, f86v5: text]
> v
>
> [ Note the apparently reversed r/v labeling of the inner
> "bifolio", which is actually the top half of the
> fold-out. The
> nine-rosette diagram is the side containing f85v2,
> f86r4, f86r6
> (top) and f85v1, f86r3, f86r5 (bottom). ]
>
> [QUIRE 15=O] [XV in the Beinecke catalog]
> 2 sheets, 4 folios, 12 pages, 14 panels.
> Mixed 'herbal' and 'pharma'.
>
> /---------- A4 --- 087 -----+ [herbal]
> !
> ! /-------- A4 --- 088 -----+ [pharma]
> ! !
> A A
> ! !
> ! \-------- A? --- 089.1 ---|--- 089.2
> ---+-(089.3)-+ [pharma]
> !
> \---------- A? --- 090.1 ---|--- 090.2 ---+
> [herbal]
>
> [QUIRE 16=P] [part of XVI in the Beinecke catalog]
> 0 sheets, 0 folios, 0 pages, 0 panels (+missing).
> Unknown contents.
>
> [ The Beinecke catalog entry for the VMS says that
> folios f91 thru f97
> are a single quire, with sheets f91+f98, f92+f97,
> etc. However, this
> claim may be incorrect, because there is a gathering mark "19"
> at the Southeast corner of f102v1, and a partially effaced one
> in f96v. ]
>
> /--······ ? ··· (091) ····
> !
> ?
> !
> \--······ ? ··· (092) ····
>
> [QUIRE 17=Q] [part of XVI in the Beinecke catalog]
> 2 sheets, 4 folios, 10 pages, 10 panels.
> All 'herbal'.
>
> /---------- A4 --- 093 -----+
> !
> ! /-------- B5 --- 094 -----+
> ! !
> A B
> ! !
> ! \-------- B5 --- 095.1 ---|--- 095.2 ---+
> !
> \---------- A4 --- 096 -----+
>
> [ Beinecke also says that there are two stubs between
> f94 and f95.
> Not checked. ]
>
> [QUIRE 18=R] [part of XVI in the Beinecke catalog]
> 0 sheets, 0 folios, 0 pages, 0 panels (+missing).
> Unknown contents.
>
> /--······ ? ··· (097) ····
> !
> ?
> !
> \--······ ? ··· (098) ····
>
> [QUIRE 19=S] [XVII in the Beinecke catalog]
> 2 sheets, 4 folios, 10 pages, 14 panels.
> All 'pharma'.
>
> /---------- A4?--- 099 -----+
> !
> ! /-------- A4?--- 100 -----+
> ! !
> A A
> ! !
> ! \-------- A4?--- 101.1 ---+---(101.2)---+
> !
> \---------- A? --- 102.1 ---|--- 102.2 ---+-(102.3)-+
>
> [QUIRE 20=T] [XVIII in the Beinecke catalog]
> 6 sheets, 12 folios, 24 pages, 24 panels (+missing).
> Mostly 'stars'.
>
> /-------------------- BX --- 103 -----+
> ! /------------------ BX --- 104 -----+
> ! ! /---------------- BY --- 105 -----+
> ! ! ! /-------------- BX --- 106 -----+
> ! ! ! ! /------------ B ---- 107 -----+
> ! ! ! ! ! /---------- B ---- 108 -----+
> ! ! ! ! ! ! /--······ ? ··· (109) ····
> ! ! ! ! ! ! !
> B B B B B B ?
> ! ! ! ! ! ! !
> ! ! ! ! ! ! \--······ ? ··· (110) ····
> ! ! ! ! ! \---------- B ---- 111 -----+
> ! ! ! ! \------------ B ---- 112 -----+
> ! ! ! \-------------- B ---- 113 -----+
> ! ! \---------------- B ---- 114 -----+
> ! \------------------ B ---- 115 -----+
> \-------------------- B ---- 116 -----+ [f116v:
> 'michiton' text]
>
>
> ========================================================
> ==============