Re: VMs: The Star Chart on f68r3

[steve ekwall <ekwall2@xxxxxxxx>]

YES* the KEY (& the Time is NOW!!) is to simply FOLD IT!!
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 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 14:58:10 -0500
 From: Big Jim <bigjim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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 Subject: Re: VMs: The Star Chart on f68r3
 
 At 05:41 PM 12/26/2002 +0000, you wrote:
 >Hi Jim,
 >
 >> From the looks of things the information was found, collected, and saved 
 >> as the VMS.
 ><...>
 >>This leaves the "plant and nymph" pictures. What do they have to do with 
 >>a destruction on earth? Evidentially, nothing. How much time is wasted on 
 >>them? They seem to do exactly what they were intended to do. Divert 
 >>attention from the text.
 >
 >FWIW, from all the art history analysis of the VMS I've done, there's a 
 >pretty good chance that I can now account for the plant and nymph 
 >sections: the zodiac section I'm kind of 50-50 about,
 
 I wish we had the VMS Aquarius page. The work I have done on the Zodiac 
 shows it to be an ancient  memory device connected to the destruction. Le 
 Serpent Rouge zodiacal information, as it sits, is a cute historical 
 overview. The "added" 13th zodiacal sign is placed directly between Scorpio 
 and Sagittarius.  This happens to be the direction the destruction is 
 coming from.
 On the VMS Pisces page, the one word in the very center I had translated 
 some time ago. It says exactly what I would have expected to see: Moving 
 towards the time / season from on high. Aquarius is the time. Pisces was 
 too soon.
 
 >but the cosmological part (that interests you most) seems (to my eyes, at 
 >least) to have come from a separate (and currently unknown) source entirely.
 
 Ahh..ok. THIS approach would make a lot of sense.
 There is a picture I see in history. After the 5200 BC event, when 
 everything changed "doctrinally," there was a group that became more 
 "hidden" than any group I have ever heard of. They were the original 
 keepers of the destruction information. I have NO idea who they are. I call 
 them the Elders for lack of a better term. It was these people who, despite 
 the new religious oppression,  continued to keep the original doctrinal 
 information concerning the destruction in its original form. It was this 
 group that left only their fingerprint in history. They were responsible 
 for the change in the story of Sumerian King Ziusudra, from a local flood 
 event, to a world-wide flood with a divine intervention / salvation 
 scenario. They last popped up during the formation of early Christian 
 doctrine. Their insert was the future destruction information, with again, 
 a divine intervention salvation scenario mixed with Jewish immanent 
 apocalyptic beliefs. After this...they disappeared. If what I see in the 
 Graal core material is right, their information is now in the hands of 
 "others."
 
 
 
 >Also: though the 9-rosette map page seems to tie in to the same time and 
 >place as the herbals and the bath sections, I can't currently assert that 
 >it is from the same source as them.
 >
 > From all this, I infer that the content of the VMS is a heterogenous 
 > group of  manuscripts, which was encoded by its owner.
 >  This would make the encoding related not to the *content* but to the 
 > *owner*. By identifying the owner, then, we should improve our chances of 
 > working out the code.
 
 Unless it is a wild card player. Some unknown third party "hired" to encode it?
 I like your idea. There seems to be just TOO MUCH information here for it 
 all to all relate to the destruction.
 
 >In addition, I'm fascinated by Robert's suggestions about f68r3, most 
 >specifically about the difference between six-point stars (fake stars, 
 >background) and seven-point stars (real stars, foreground). By itself, 
 >this observation (if verifiable) points to the diagrams in the VMS as 
 >containing *diagrammatic information*.
 
 I read somewhere the 7 pointed star was always interpreted as referring to 
 the Pleiades.
 I like the date Robert came up with. There were 3 MINOR hits around that 
 time. One double and one single. The single hit seems closest to the figure 
 Robert gave. On top of everything else, if the event was strong enough, the 
 galactic core would have been visible from earth as a large star.
 
 BTW, Robert, if you are reading this, would you please go to this page and 
 tell me what you think. This is just a "non-web" page I use to access 
 things when I am away from home. It has to do with the constellation of 
 Orion and the placing of the seven wonders of the world. I do not do 
 astronomy. It was just something I saw one day. The larger pic is on top 
 with a smaller version under it. The rest of the page has nothing to do 
 with that. Just other things I had been pondering.
 http://users.gloryroad.net/~bigjim/hmm.htm
 
 >This isn't a trivial point - everyone here has examined the diagrams and 
 >"seen" patterns, but proving that the modes of representation in there 
 >(ie, number of points on a star, colour of a star, etc) are actually being 
 >used to carry meaningful information would be a very big step forward in 
 >positing signal over noise, code rather than gull. :-)
 >
 >Cheers, .....Nick Pelling.....
 >
 >PS: a further possibility is that, on other diagrams (such as f67v1), the 
 >number of points on a star could instead be representing its magnitude 
 >(ie, a primitive measure of "foregroundness"). Going clockwise from 12 
 >o'clock (inside outwards), the number of points on f67v1 are (from the CopyFlo)
 
 I like to leave these things to people who know far more than I do about 
 them. If the historical overview I have is correct, and it seems to be, 
 then all pieces reconstructed by individual detailists will fit exactly 
 where they belong in the bigger picture. Robert mentions Pleiades. Pleiades 
 is destruction information that connects to the event by way of the 
 galactic anti-center. He has a date. There was a minor superwave hit about 
 then. Something is here.
 
 Regards
 Jim
 
 
 
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