Re: VMs: Re: over troubled water...

["Rafal T. Prinke" <rafalp@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Dana,

> From these immigration records we now know that
> Wilrid M. Voynich was born in Telski which he
> listed as being in Poland and is now in Lithuania
> (unless I am referring to the wrong city?).

Yes, that is the place. It was in the Coomonwealth
of Poland and Lithuania until 1795 - and then until
1918 in Russia. See for example this (not very readable)
map:

   http://home.adelphia.net/~rschechter/map03.htm

Because Lithuanian nobility/gentry had mostly been 
polonized and it was one state, it was customary
to refer to the whole as Poland. On the other hand,
the great Polish romantic epic (recently made into
a movie by Andrzej Wajda) starts "O Lithuania, my
mother country".

For Poles, whether ruled by Russia, Prussia or Austria,
the country existed "vitually" throughout the 19th c.
and on the same area.

> Telshi Map: (19th century?)
> http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/images/russia.jpg

Yes - or at least pre-1914. Here "Poland" is just
an administrative division of Russia - without 
the Prussian and Austrian parts shown.

Anyway, Voynich was born in Telsze (the Polish name
of the town) and not in Kowno/Kaunas (as stated in the Fremantle
article).

Best regards,

Rafal
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