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Hi Robert,

Probably just my imagination, then. But if you look carefully, you can
find the number-characters in order (except 4, which is why I used ?)
starting from the 2 pm marker.

When I started looking at the VMS, I wondered:- (a) for a thing with zodiacs in, where are all the astrological glyphs? (b) for a thing with recipes in, where are all the numbers (quantities, etc)?

For (a), I still don't have a proper answer, except that I should say that I have in the past suspected EVA <dy> to (steganographically) code for Cancer. But as that may well have become disconnected under the final coding scheme adopted, don't get too excited about it. :-(

For (b), I have to say that it took me a year to start properly seeing the dain/daiin/daiiin and the cc/ccc characters as being some kind of steganographic Roman-numeral-based number system. But there are other (more shape-based) arguments to be made here about this.

I believe that the cipherbet (without "4") was designed specifically for the VMS, with the (slightly unusual) constraint that characters in the codestream needed to be appear on the page in any rotation and remain unambiguous.

I then think that the "4" character (which overwhelmingly appears in in its "4o" form) was a "hacked-on" later addition, probably by a different code-designer, to solve specific functional omissions from the code (ie, a missing letter or function) that had somehow got overlooked. I infer this because the "4" has such a radically different stroke-form from the others, that it seems likely to have been created by a different author.

Why is this relevant here? Because the "8" and "9" characters were most likely apparently appropriated *not* from Arabic numerals, but from Tironian shorthand fossilised in Latin writing of the 14th-15th Centuries. Certainly, the "9" is often used in a very similar way to how you'd expect to see it (at the beginning and end of words) - but whether this is deception (to fool us) or necessity (by dint of its structure) is another issue entirely. :-o

The "4"/"4o" pair, too, appears to have been used in a 1440 cipherbet from Urbino - but that too was apparently not inspired by Arabic numbers. But where did this modern-looking "4" shape come from? Yes, that's a good question (but permit me to leave it for another day).

In short: to my eyes, there is more immediate iconographic evidence that the code/cipherbet was devised *outside* of the Arabic numbering tradition than *inside* it - so be careful to understand that Arabic numbering in the underlying text is an assumption here, which I suspect may well be wrong.

BTW, this, too, points to a date of the cipherbet design of, say, 1470 or earlier.

IMWO, numbering is probably the key by which the VMS will be broken: understand how it numbers things (and if, as I believe, its code is an embellished number code of some sort) and you will probably understand the code.

Cheers, ....Nick Pelling....

PS: FWIW, I currently think that:
- most of the VMS' plaintext was in Italian, & the code was designed around that
- "4" probably codes for "z" (ie, a letter that got overlooked by the code-maker)
- "4o" probably means "number following this special symbol" - hence "qoteedy" etc


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