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Re: VMs: Re: The VMS "alphabet" and some other issues...



OK, it is now obvious to me that most of the Voynich "words" are not
words at all - though I do believe that some few words *do* translate by
letter translation (ie the text near "aldebaran" in f68r3.

I took 7 lines of text from F76r and plugged them into excel vertically.
 Almost every "word" has letters placed in a particular order.  I know I
have seen mention of this before, but now I am convinced.

For those with Excel and the Voynich font installed find attached a
spreadsheet of the paragraphs that start with "o" and "l" on that sheet.
 Columns are words and each word is placed into a 10 character row grid.

Those few "yellow" cells are where the order seems to break down.  1
character in each of 11 words out of 94 total words have this flaw.

I'm not sure what this means yet.  Perhaps the characters for each word
are placed in alphabetical order after encoding, or there is some
pattern to the characters instead of translating directly to letters.  

I am going to continue this for more of the page to verify the pattern,
but it certainly looks indicative of something....

Robert - I have NOT compared these results to your chart yet.  


******************************
Larry Roux
Syracuse University
lroux@xxxxxxx
*******************************
>>> rteague@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 02/02/03 13:28 PM >>>
> If we could break down some of these into smaller components (which
resmble
> Tyronian abbreviations from northern Italy 1420-1490) we might be able
to
> add some vital "clews" to understanding the character sets of the VMS.

What struck me was a similarity to Tolkien's Feanoran letters.

> Also in your second table below, you have line item 4 listed as an EVA
[c]
> when I think you mean EVA [e] as you did with #4 in the 1st list. An
EVA
[e]
> looks like the typwritten [e].
>
> Also what Landini character correspondes with EVA [b] ? I know of an
EVA
[v]
> but not an EVA [b]. Unless I am missing something here.
>
> EVA uses small case typewritten letters throughout (e.g. otaiin,
daiin,
> okeody etc.)
> Why have you capitalised some EVA characters in your list? Can you
stick
to
> pure EVA small case letters in your charts, so I can transcribe them
in my
> table more accurately? (Unless you are indicating non EVA letters, and
if
> so, please explain)

The confusion is probably brought about by errors I made while retyping
the character set into an email.

I had written it into WordPad on a notebook computer in the EVA font,
then converted it to Arial and retyped it on my desktop.

A problem I have with the notebook is that I can't tell when the caps
lock
is on. I've made another change or two; I'll retype it.

> Is there a free download of the Landini Voynich Alphabet character
set? It
> would make discussion a little more accurate in these cases...

I think you can get the EVA font on the Voynich Transcription Project
page.

> Robert, have you drawn any conclusions at all from your own organising
of
> the socalled VMS "character alphabet" which might well employ letters
and
> numbers crytpically?

No, not really. I hope others more versed in cryptology than me will
comment.

Robert

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