RE: VMs: Astronomical Notes, Comments, and Replies

["Larry Roux" <lroux@xxxxxxx>]

OK, I thought I understood, but I guess not. 
 
>Horoscopes tended to look at the degree of the
>zodiac that ascended at the time of a person's
>birth, or the degree in which the sun was 
>located (the latter is what you find in modern
>magazines and newspapers, because it does not
>require knowledge of the time of birth, only the
>date).

Are you saying that in the first case the person's horoscope would be
determined by the degree of the zodiac that was rising at the time of
their birth?  So, say at 10:00pm it may be determined by "20 degrees in
Aquarius", but if I were born at midnight I might be 13 degrees in
"Pisces"?  (Unlike the month rules we are accustomed to these days with
the phony newspaper stuff?)

I know that the zodiac covers 360 degrees of sky (one full circle), but
why would each constellation contain 30 degrees? Were they (or are they)
all equal in size?  Certainly does not seem so on the outset.  Pisces
looks much larger on the ecliptic than, say, Aquarius

Lastly, why would the Voy show 30 degrees in each zodiac?  are the other
29 degrees in the constellation plus the 330 others of some importance?

See? I scoffed at horoscopes and it woulda been handy if I had studied
them after all!




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Larry Roux
Syracuse University
lroux@xxxxxxx
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>>> r_zandbergen@xxxxxxxxx 02/10/03 05:03 AM >>>
Dear all,

> I figure that all of the months for which we have
> sheets  contain 30 days.

Yes, but note that they should not be days but 
degrees.

> Since Pisces has 29 showing, and the text in
> the center matches the format of the other days,
> it is most likely the missing day.

Absolutely correct.
Whether it was a mistake or part of a plan is
hard to say. I tend to think the latter, but
there is one missing label in the other
zodiac pages, and there is also one page
where the nymph has no star. These two, I think,
are mistakes.

> I also note that there is a pattern to the pages

(snipped)

Well spotted.

> Seems to me Pisces was supposed to have 20 2nd
> circle women but due to a mistake - or for some 
> intentional reason - the final day was put into
> the center. 

Horoscopes tended to look at the degree of the
zodiac that ascended at the time of a person's
birth, or the degree in which the sun was 
located (the latter is what you find in modern
magazines and newspapers, because it does not
require knowledge of the time of birth, only the
date).

> If this truly is a horoscope, perhaps
> that one day is the birthdate of the person.

In that is the case, the VMs was written by George
of Trebizond after all :-) He lived in the 
15th C., in N.Italy, was familiar with all Greek
philosophical (i.e. scientific) works, worked in
diplomatic circles, and was quite mad in his
older days, both by modern and contemporary 
standards :-).
He used to lament the fact that he was born under
the sign of Pisces.

Cheers, Rene

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