Re: VMs: Regal Eagle

[Rene Zandbergen <r_zandbergen@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hmmm,

somewhere in the archives there should be at
least one more reference to heraldry. The
well-known page in the bio section with the
nymph being eaten by a fish (f79v)
also has some heraldic animals in or near
the same pond (at least in my opinion):
bottom left: salamander
bottom right: lion
Bove the lion: golden fleece
Left of the lion: anybody's guess

Would the golden fleece help dating the MS? 

Cheers, Rene

--- Larry Roux <lroux@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> ps: the previous page, f46r brings to mind a
> heraldic shield that I cannot find right now.  I
> will continue to search.  I believe the 3 rows of
> leaves appear similar to the three feathers (or was
> it banners?) on the shield.  
> 
> 
> ******************************
> Larry Roux
> Syracuse University
> lroux@xxxxxxx
> *******************************
> >>> dscott520@xxxxxxx 05/26/03 21:23 PM >>>
> One aspect of the herbal section in the VMS that has
> been somewhat puzzling
> to me is the significance of apparent confusion
> presented by the "unusual"
> additions to some of the herbals. It appears that a
> number of the herbal
> drawings have been twisted and contorted into shapes
> that only the scribe of
> the VMS or close confederates would understand.
> There is clear evidence of
> animal shapes being included in the drawings
> suggesting a possible interest
> in the doctrine of signatures. It has also been
> suggested that grafting of
> various plants may be evinced in the VMS. While
> these hypotheses may someday
> prove positive I sense that a more personal agenda
> may be proffered.
> 
> An examination of the root system in f46v strongly
> suggests the heraldic
> display of an eagle's wing popular in many Coats of
> Arms. While this may be
> unmistakably obvious, perhaps there is more. I have
> reviewed many of the
> banners and flags of Italy and what strikes me as
> most interesting is that
> there is only a single example that most closely
> matches the roots in f46v:
> 
> Novara Province (Piedmont,Italy): (West of Milan)
> http://fotw.vexillum.com/misc/it-nov.jpg
> http://www.fotw.net/misc/it-no.jpg
> http://fotw.vexillum.com/misc/it)nov.gif
> 
> Now if we take a closer look at the herbal drawing
> and work our way up to
> the top of the plant we can see that the flowers
> have been arranged into
> almost a complete circle which might suggest the
> crown at the top of this
> Coat of Arms. Similarly, the leaves in this plant
> might correspond to the
> laurels branching through the crown. Of course this
> may be speculation on my
> part but it does seems to help explain the "unusual"
> combination of items
> included in the herbals. It might suggest that the
> scribe of the VMS is
> somewhat patriotic and perhaps loyal to a cause.
> There may be similar
> examples and clues in the VMS that could help us
> focus our sights on the
> location of the origin of the VMS, which by this
> possible 'evidence' appears
> to continue to be in Northern Italy.
> 
> Piemonte:
> http://www.sinifulvi.com/images/map11.gif
> 
> Novara:
>
http://www.regione.piemonte.it/stat/aree/im/province.jpg
>
http://www.batei-kfar.co.il/farm-holiday/aosta_piemonte_liguria_lombardia.gi
> f
> 
> Map: (Novara, Piemonte, West of Milan)
>
http://www.ilnuovo.it/nuovo/images/68/mappe_regioni_1_214x204.jpg
> http://www.tecnosport.it/italy_map_piemonte.JPG
> http://www.moto.it/roadbook/foto/312-00-big.jpg
>
http://www.olivetti.com.pe/aip/images/ArtCentral/MAPA.gif
> http://www.costanzaeroberto.it/images/piemonte_1.jpg
> 
> Regards,
> Dana Scott
>
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