Re: VMs: Virgin Mary (was re: VMS: Finding)

[steve ekwall <ekwall2@xxxxxxxx>]

Ref(note):?

A STAR with a (ink) DOT depected (center) in it = a successful MALE
BIRTH!!!!! 

-=se=- 

steve (now go away - OK Ok ok) ekwall :-(



 

 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:23:08 +0100
 From: Nick Pelling <incoming@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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 Subject: Re: VMs: Virgin Mary (was re: VMS: Finding)
 
 Hi GC,
 
 >Certainly no single thing can be used to define the VMS, but when
 >we start adding up all the things we know, a picture begins to
 >emerge with enough force to become far more than a simple guess.
 >the crown on 72v1 is a good example of overt christian symbolism,
 >but I'm willing to bet that if you focused on this tack, more
 >symbolism would be found that corresponds with other christian
 >feasts and traditions, and through these a much clearer picture of
 >the astrological pages would begin to emerge.
 
 Here's another possible explanation: if, like me, you suspect the nymphs in 
 the astrological volvelles have a logical ordering (inner rings first, 
 count them clockwise from 10 o'clock [ie, around from the ascendant]), then 
 the crowned nymph's location would be 15 or 16 degrees of Libra.
 
 So far, so nothing: but can we find any powerful Quattrocento women born to 
 that degree?
 
 My #1 guess would be Bona of Savoy, who ruled over Milan for many years 
 (latterly with Cicco Simonetta): she was born in Chambéry (in Savoy) on the 
 8th of October 1449, and married Galeazzo Maria Sforza in 1468.
 
 My guess is that this date ought to be pretty close to 15/16 Libra (but 
 calendrical uncertainty means that's by no means certain) - can someone 
 please check this out in their archaeo-astrology programme?
 
 It may be that Bona's horoscope still exists in the Milanese state archives 
 (which would make this test that much more definitive)... but I don't know 
 who I'd ask to find out. Hmmm...
 
 According to John R. Spencer, an alliance between the Sforza and the royal 
 house of France had been rumoured from as early as 1460: and "[i]n June 
 1464 Bona of Savoy was officially offered to Galeazzo by letters from the 
 King of France and the Duke of Savoy." If the VMS was made in Milan, this 
 would point to an earliest likely date of (say) July 1464 "when the 
 marriage with Bona was the talk of the town", or an earliest possible date 
 of 1460 (though somewhat less likely).
 
 My #2 guess would be Bianca Maria Sforza, but her birthday was 31st March 
 1425 (in Milano) - which we can probably rule out as being linked with 
 Libra. :-)
 
 Cheers, .....Nick Pelling.....
 
 PS: for a lively rendition of various Northern Italian families' histories 
 (including the Visconti-Sforza), you might look at:-
 
          http://members.shaw.ca/soniamichaels/CH9complete.doc
 
          Galeazzo married the French King Louis II's sister-in law, Bona
          of Savoy (quite a stunner apparently but a bear of very little brain)
          who had once been betrothed to Edward IV of England, until his
          eyes (and a bit more) fell on Elizabeth Woodville. 
 
 

 
 

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