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Correct. The content of the VMS is not restricted - but the
individual pictures/slides, etc are governed by fair use. The person (or
group) who owns the picture has the authority to govern/copyright that
use.
In most cases educational institutions do not restrict use of such
materials as the Voynich MS scans for research purposes. If you used a
scan or part of a scan as a logo for a new pair of new Nike shoes they
may balk. If you took pages from the Voy and dubbed in pictures of real,
naked nymphs out on a porn site they would most certainly balk. The key is
Universities/Colleges are meant to broaden knowledge, not line people's pockets
(ok, maybe that is just a bit naive..).
In any case it is always best to ask the source for permission and be sure
to note the source (ie "All scans of pages are used with the expressed
permission of Yale University...blah blah blah").
In this day and age "theft" of graphics from one web page to another is
quite prevelent. The same idea should pertain to Web pages. If you
cannot get permission to use a graphic from a page you should simply link to the
source rather than using the graphic. There is even talk about how
moralistic it is to even create links to pages without permission... but that
gets further off topic.
If you remember the axiom: "Do not pass off intellectual property as your
own" you should be safe.
****************************** Larry Roux Syracuse University lroux@xxxxxxx ******************************* >>> xenon@xxxxxxxxxxxx 06/24/03 11:45AM >>> steve ekwall wrote: > "under copyright to the VMs group"?, I'm not a lawyer, but can one > copyright something they don't even know what it is?? > Can/should I 'copyright' this reply? > Why try to copyright it in the 1st place if it is NOT Yours/Ours?? The VMs itself is not protected under any known copyright law, being far too old to be within the permitted time range. I can take a picture of something, say, a frog. Even if the frog is not mine, I can claim ownership (and copyright) of the photo. If you own the frog, there are circumstances where you can claim my photo is derivative of some rights you have and either prevent me from taking a picture or owning the picture. (For example, the famous Cypress tree in Monterey is protected by trademark, limiting what rights you as a photographer can have). In the case of the VMs, if the library were to allow us to take pictures of the VMs, the photographer would then own the images and copyright, and can stipulate what they will allow done with them. For example, we might stipulate that no for-profit books be published using them unless an arrangement to return some of the proceeds to the group (to fund research). > If I bought a "slave" or pet bird, Is it R E A L L Y Mine? > Voynich _just bought_ this Ms. Can we copyright all the books we have > bought on our bookshelves in our home & office? (what if the very 1st > line (finally DEcoded) of the VMs says "COPYRIGHTED King Zyxxyggy" > (ouchey!) ha.haa > Best to you & yours > -=se=- > steve (rem: ES said it was for EVERYONE) ekwall Chris - Xenon -- Chris Hanson | Xenon@xxxxxxxxxxxx | Life is too short to fold socks! New World Construction Set 6 Demo Version!: http://www.3DNature.com/demo/ "There is no Truth. There is only Perception. To Perceive is to Exist." - Xen ______________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxx with a body saying: unsubscribe vms-list |